【地球盟友】 【柯博拉Cobra】2015年4月16日Rob Potter訪談

【地球盟友】

【柯博拉Cobra】2015年4月16日Rob Potter訪談

  

Rob – Here we are ladies and gentlemen. In earth time, it is April 16, 2015, and this will get to you sometime, hopefully by the end of the weekend we’ll get at least the audio up. Welcome, again to another special edition of the Victory of Light Radio Show. Thank you so much for coming on Cobra.

Rob：大家好。今天是2015年4月16日。這個節目的音頻可能改天給大家，希望這個週末我們能上傳好。歡迎再次來到Victory of Light電臺節目的特別版，非常謝謝柯博拉的到來.


COBRA – Thank you everybody for listening.

COBRA：謝謝各位收聽。


Rob – We have so many questions, there’s no way we’re going to get through them all this month. I apologize to you people again who won’t get their questions asked. Cobra, I’d like to start off and I always do this when I get a lot of repeat questions from people.We spoke about this privately the other day, but my take is kind of like yours. Of course, no one knows the future exactly, but we’ve been hearing about chemtrails have been on the scene now for at least 17 years going over the planet. We’ve had endless horror, destruction through the secret governments and their depopulation programs and all these things going on as well as, you know, fomenting of wars and all these things are horrible things.
For some reason now, there’s an internet push, another fear-based element . . . we’ve had FEMA camps for a long time. A lot of people, some close friends of mine, are extremely depressed and paranoid. They seem to become reactive to certain things, so we’ll talk about what they can do to shield themselves from that. But the primary question is Jade Helm. There seems to be evidence for some people indicating that there are masses of foreign troops living normal lives and will be activated as sleeper cells to join NATO operations in some sort of joint operation called Jade Helm.Could you please give a little background to this type of stuff to allay the incessant fears? And I know that they may get away with something. Certain elements may take place, but can you speak about the fail-safe for the resistance and what is going on with this operation? It’s very important to a lot of people right now.

Rob：我們收到了非常多的問題。這個月沒有辦法將所有問題進行回答。對那些沒有獲得回答的問題，我要說一聲抱歉。柯博拉，我想最好可以開始了，當我收到來自人們的很多重複問題的時候，我總要回顧一下。前幾天我們私底下談到過這些，但我的看法基本上和你一樣。當然，沒有人能準確知道未來會怎樣，但我們一直聽說， 到現在為止至少17年，在這顆行星上一直都在噴灑著化學凝結尾。通過秘密政府及其實施的人口滅絕計畫，我們遭受著無止境的恐懼與破壞，還包括煽動戰爭，所有這些都是恐怖的事情。現在由於某種原因，網上又有人在宣揚，散佈令人恐懼的資訊...我們知道聯邦應急管理局的集中營建立了有很長時間了。有許多人，包括我的一些親密朋友都極度沮喪和偏執。他們似乎對某些事物總是作出反應，因此我們想談談，他們能做點什麼可以保護自己。但主要問題是關於Jade Helm。對某些人來說，似乎有證據暗示，有許多外國軍隊在美國過著普通的生活，將會作為一名沉睡者而被啟動，然後加入到一個北約代號為“Jade Helm”的聯合行動。你能否針對這些說法給予我們一些背景資訊，以減輕不斷產生的恐懼呢？我知道，他們僥倖逃脫了某些事情，某些事物可能發生了，但你可以談論一下關於抵抗運動的自動防禦機制嗎？關於此行動到底是怎樣的呢？現在對很多人來說，知道它很重要。


COBRA — OK. The first thing I would like to mention here is that this is a double-edge sword. On the surface, it might appear like a big operation for the Cabal. On the other hand, I can say that the same troops, the same movement, can be interpreted as movements of the positive military. I would not get too reactive. I would not get too afraid over this situation, and also, if there would be even a remote chance that something like this could get out of control, the RM could trigger the Event if necessary.

COBRA：好的。首先，我想說的是，這是一把雙刃劍。在表面上看，它似乎就是陰謀集團的一個大動作。另一方面，我會說，同樣的軍隊，同樣的行動，都可以被解讀為正義軍的行動。我對此不會反應過度。對這種情況，我不會太害怕，並且，即使只有極小的可能使得這件事失去控制，抵抗運動也會在必要的時候觸發事件。



Rob – OK. The question I’m going to ask is, if the RM could stop this, for instance, why wouldn’t they stop some of these other things going on in Ukraine? That’s another horrible tragedy that’s going on over there. A lot of people have mentioned, why aren’t they intervening in these things? Why are they letting these skirmishes take place? Why would this type of thing in America . . . would it trigger more heavy intervention?

Rob：好的，我要問的問題是，如果抵抗運動能阻止這種事，那為什麼他們不能阻止發生在烏克蘭的那些事呢？那裏也發生著可怕的悲劇。很多人已經提到，為什麼抵抗運動不去介入那些事情呢？為什麼他們會讓那些小衝突不斷發生？如果在美國發生的這種事情...是否可以觸發更多的介入呢？


COBRA – OK. It is a risk assessment evaluation. So we have the Chimera group with their strangelet bombs on one side and the atrocities that those people are doing on the other side. The RM will intervene when the risk will be worth it. For example, if we were to have a massive, like martial law scenario in the US, that would affect 250M people, that might be a worthwhile risk to risk some strangelet bomb explosions and then the RM will intervene. I will not give any exact strategic details of how those risks are evaluated. I would just say the RM and the light forces know exactly how to act to minimize the suffering on this planet. They never allow unnecessary suffering to continue. If they can prevent it, they are preventing it. They will not be taking risks to reduce a certain amount of suffering to risk a much larger amount of suffering that could potentially take place.

COBRA：好的，這是一種風險評估。一方面，奇美拉組織持有他們的奇異誇克炸彈，而另一方面他們又實施著那些暴行。當風險值得去冒的時候，抵抗運動才會介入。比如，如果我們在美國發生了軍事戒嚴，那將會影響到2億多人，這將是值得冒奇異誇克炸彈爆炸的風險，讓抵抗運動介入的情況。我不會給出抵抗運動關於風險評估的策略細節，我只會說抵抗運動和光明勢力能完全清楚地知道該如何行動，以最小化發生於這顆行星上的苦難。他們從不允許不必要的苦難繼續下去，如果他們可以阻止，他們就會去阻止。他們不會冒險去減少一些災難，從而存在風險引發到一些更大的潛在災難。


Rob – OK. Thank you. You mentioned that these troops could be interpreted as being used by the light forces. Obviously these on the ground troops are just taking orders and following them. Ben Fulford seemed to have mentioned that. Now, I personally . . . no disrespect to Ben . . . I consider some of his intel really, you know, not necessarily very good. He does have good intel and he has a very good intent, but I’m not sure he would know that this is definitely being planned by the good guys, or is it being planned by the bad guys and the good guys are letting it go and then will take over at the last minute. What do you think is the situation there in regards to the, “who is in control” of these troops? Can you tell us what is the primary intention? Is this Cabal orchestrated movements or are these good guy orchestrated movements?

Rob：好的，謝謝你。你有提到，這些軍隊可以解讀為被光明勢力所用。很明顯，那些地面部隊只是在聽取並執行命令。本傑明.富爾福德似乎也提到這一點。現在，就我個人而言，我並不是想冒犯本傑明，但你知道，我是真地在思考他的一些情報，並覺得不一定是那麼好。他確實有一些不錯的資訊，意圖也非常好。但我不確定他是否會知道，這些到底是好人所策劃的，還是壞人所策劃的，或者說是好人正故意放手讓其發生，並在最後一刻才出手。關於“誰在控制”這些軍隊，你所認為的情況是怎樣的呢？你能告訴我們，其主要意圖是什麼呢？這是陰謀集團所策劃的行動嗎？還是好人策劃的？


COBRA – OK. First, about Ben Fulford’s intel. You need to use his reports to pick the gems of intel and leave the rest, because there are some encoded real gems inside there and do not worry about the rest. Regarding about the Jade Helm situation, I will not comment on the deeper background of this, but I will give you an analogy. This famous financial restructuring by the Eastern and BRICS alliance, those new Infrastructure Banks. They can be interpreted as a new globalized centralized, new order system or it can be interpreted as advance of the light forces.

COBRA：好的，首先，關於本傑明的情報資訊。你在讀他的報告的時候，要取其精華並舍掉其他，因為在報告裏有一些加了密的真實部分，其餘部分不需要擔心。關於Jade Helm的情況，我不會對其更深的背景給出評論，但我會給你一個類比。由東盟和金磚國家所發起的這場著名的金融重構，那些新的基礎設施銀行，它可以被解讀為一種全新的全球化集權，新秩序體系，或者可以解讀為光明勢力的推進。


Rob – Very good. And obviously, why would the bad guys switch a system? It’s the good guys that are trying to initiate the system. The bad guys are trying to infiltrate as much as they can. The next big thing that I’d like to talk about that has broken on the scene since we talked about last time was a gentlemen whose real name is Corey. He got outed, which he wasn’t originally happy for, and he goes by an Avatar name, GoodETxSG, I think it is, or ESG, or something like that.He was the source for David Wilcox revelation at the LA Conscious Life Expo where he revealed a lot of information. And you address this in your blog in regard to what he called the Blue Avians or the civilization from the center of the galactic sun with the huge motherships staying in the Oort cloud because they would influence our solar system’s magnetics.Now, I have been told by Michael Salla that David Wilcox has flown him to LA for an exclusive. It seems GoodET and David did a series of recordings on the TV, on his TV show, and David will be releasing that intel. He has a kind of a special exclusive with this Corey character is not talking on radio until this Wilcock interview is released.He seems to be not directly involved so much in the super soldier program, but he’s obviously has been under mind control in the past but he seems to be breaking his programs and he acts as a kind of an empath. For those who are listening, I’m giving background. Cobra knows all this. He acts as an empath for interactions and councils and for the information that he’s been giving is really shocking to many people that there are 10 separate secret space programs run by various factions on the earth and that folks, there have been interactions and full blown council meetings with multiple ET races and multiple representatives of the world’s governments going on for many years. I predicted this, the super soldiers and the space guys coming out. Here he is Cobra. Can you share a little? I’d like to just give an overview and your view and comment of his information. I heard . . . is it true you posted on his blog?

Rob：非常好。很明顯，為什麼壞蛋們想要換一個體系？這應該是好人們在嘗試啟動新的體系。壞人們正盡可能地滲透進去。下一個我想談論的一個比較大的問題是，是那個真名叫Corey的先生，上一次現場談到他的時候中斷了。他被洩露了，這是他最初所不高興看到的，他採用的是一個別名，名叫GoodETxSG。我想是那個名字，或是ESG,或是類似那樣的名字。他是David Wilcock在洛杉磯“意識生命展覽會”上所揭露資訊的來源，他揭露了很多資訊。對於他所稱之的藍鳥族，或是來自銀河中央太陽的文明，你都有在博客上提到過，他們巨大母艦停靠在奧爾特雲裏，能影響到我們太陽系的磁場。現在，Michael Salla有告訴我說，David和他飛到洛杉磯做了一個獨家專訪。似乎GoodETxSG和David做了一系列的電視訪談節目,在節目中，David將釋放那些情報資訊。他似乎沒有直接地，過多地牽涉進那個超級戰士計畫裏，但過去他顯然受到了腦控，然後他打破了控制，現在扮演著神使而角色。對於聽眾們來說，我是在介紹背景資訊。柯博拉知道所有這些，他現在是作為委員會的神使而參與了互動，他公開的資訊真的是震驚了很多人，他說到有10個獨立的秘密太空計畫，並被地球上各種不同的派系所運作。也說到，多年以來，有多個外星種族與多個世界政府的代表一直都存在著互動以及成熟的委員會會議。我預計到，他接下來要公開關於超級戰士以及那些太空人的有關資訊。就是這樣的情況，柯博拉，你能否給我們分享一些資訊嗎？我希望能給出一個概述，關於他的資訊你的評論和看法是如何的？我聽說,是真的你有在他的博客上發帖子嗎？


COBRA – Yes, I made two short posts on, not actually his blog, but on a certain forum where he posts quite often. I have just expressed support because he has a lot of genuine intel that is critically needed at this time for people to become generally aware of the secret space programs. This intel assists a lot with people becoming aware of various secret space programs. I do not agree completely with all his intel. I have a different perspective on certain things based on my sources and my experiences. But generally, what he’s doing is a good thing. I have just posted a few comments there.

COBRA：是的。我曾經有發過兩篇簡短的帖子，實際上不是在他的博客上，而是在他經常發帖的論壇上。我只是表達對他的支持，因為他有很多真實的資訊，這些資訊在這個時間點是真得很需要，讓人們普遍地瞭解到秘密太空計畫。這些資訊極大地幫助人們瞭解到了各種不同的秘密太空計畫。我並不是完全同意他的所有的資訊。在某些事情上，基於我的資訊來源和自身經歷，我會有不同的看法。但總體上他是在做一件好事，我只是在那個論壇上發表了一些評論。


Rob – OK, Thank you. Can you elaborate on the differences that you feel . . . my personal feelings was that some of his extrapolations from his experiences and his opinion of what is going . . . I also have some slight variances in the way he made it sound that these ET races said that we have some interest here because we have genetic contributions to your people. And this seemed to upset a lot of earth people as though they owned us or had a right. Can you talk a little bit about that? All of these different groups and what their . . . are they kind of at odds with each other? Who’s controlling what’s going on here? Sounds more like a control matrix from his viewpoint.

Rob：謝謝。你能否詳細談談你所感覺到的不同...我個人的感覺是，他從自己經歷所得出的一些推斷，以及他的一些見解是...他聲稱這些外星種族有說到，他們在地球上有利益，因為他們對地球人類有遺傳基因方面的貢獻，我對此說法有些許不同。這個說法貌似讓很多地球人感覺很心煩，就好像他們擁有我們，或者對我們有什麼權利。你能否談一下？所有這些不同的外星團體，他們也是彼此意見不一嗎？誰在控制當前的局面呢？從他的觀點來看，這更像是一個控制矩陣。


COBRA – OK. This is one of the things I don’t quite agree with him. He presents the whole situation as very fragmented and very compartmentalized. It is exactly as it was 10 or 20 years ago. According to my sources, he was involved in the secret space program. This I can confirm. What I cannot confirm is his updates of the current situation in the solar system. According to my sources the current situation in the solar system is a little bit different than it was 10 or 20 years ago.
Yes, he describes quite correctly all those different space programs that were present in the solar system 10 or 20 years ago. You can view those different space programs as different facets of one greater interconnected network.For example, you could relate the corporate secret space with mega-corporations on this planet. You could relate the solar warden program with some aspects of the military, financial, military industrial complex and you could relate, I would say, what he calls the dark fleet with the Chimera group. There are certain correlations here and all of this was an interconnected network, which was morphing with shifting alliances.In one way not so fragmented as he presents it to be. The current situation actually reflects the positive actions of the light forces and the vast majority of this has been cleared from the solar system according to my sources. What is remaining is the Chimera group, which does not have large numbers, but which does have some hostages. The main stronghold. . . The most powerful point . . . the most powerful aspect they have are the strangelet bombs. They are exotic weapons. This is how they hold their positions inside the solar system.I can confirm the existence of the motherships. They can be called motherships. They can be called many other names. They can be called inter-dimensional portals. It is important to understand that human beings use words to describe phenomena. From the perspective of those beings who are in operation – those Etheric platforms – they are beyond linear space and time. Their understanding is much closer to what you would describe as ascended masters.After the ascension, after you reach a higher state of consciousness . . . after the ascension, the rules are changed. Perspectives are changed. I will not go into this much deeper because it’s too early, but I will say their perspective of reality is more a perspective of oneness that manifests in different fragmentations through lower dimension. It is not a pragmatic perspective itself.

COBRA：好的。這也是其中一個我非常不同意他的地方。他將整個形勢呈現地非常零散，被分割開來。這恰恰是 10年或20年前的情況。根據我的資訊來源，他參與過秘密太空計畫。這是我能確認的。我不能確認的是，他關於太陽系當前形勢的更新。根據我的資訊，太陽系當前的形勢比10年或者20年前都有所不同了。是的，他對10到20年前太陽系的秘密太空計畫描述地非常正確。你可以視那些不同的太空計畫為一個巨大互聯網路的不同方面。比如，你可以將合作的秘密太空計畫與這顆行星上的特大企業聯繫起來，你可以將太陽看守長計畫與軍事、金融、軍工複合體的一些方面聯繫在一起。我會說，你可以把他所說的黑色艦隊與奇美拉組織聯繫在一起。這裏面都有一定的關係，所有這些是一個相互連接的網路，它在隨著聯盟形式的變化而改變著。在某種意義上來說，情況不是他所描述的那麼零散。當前形勢實際上反應出光明勢力的正面行動，根據我的資訊來源，這些秘密太空計畫中的絕大多數都已經被清理出太陽系。目前剩下的是奇美拉組織，他們並沒有很多成員，但劫持了一些人質。目前最主要的堡壘，他們最強有力的方面就是，他們擁有奇異子炸彈，是外星武器。這就是他們為何能在太陽系裏繼續把持著他們的位置。我可以確認那些母艦的存在，它們被稱之為母艦，也可以有其他名字，可以被稱為跨維度門戶。最重要的是要明白，人類會使用詞語來描述現象。從那些操作“乙太平臺”存有的視角來看，他們處於線性時空之外，他們的理解與你們所描述的揚升大師要更接近地多。在揚升之後，當你達到一定高度的意識狀態，法則就會改變，視角也會改變。我不會說得太過深入，因為現在為時太早了。但我會說，他們對於現實的視角更多是一種合一視角，並通過低維度來顯化為不同的碎片。其本身不是以一種務實的視角來描述的(不能夠用語言說清楚的)。


Rob – Right, so it’s basically they’re coming from a soul level. I understand that. So they’re basically dealing with interactions of multi-dimensional levels kind of in the all time where our linear reality doesn’t affect things. The way I look at it is, Cobra, these superluminal light beings from the pure positive planes and the higher dimensions are coming here and we don’t understand but every now and then from a holographic perspective, they are blocking certain things. Certain things are allowed to go. We don’t understand it. To us it seems illogical. Why did you stop that but allow this? It seems to me that they have a higher perspective on a holographic level to assure victory at a certain point and certain things are allowed to continue, but when it comes to a critical nexus juncture in the time space parallel reality continuum, they see to it that certain actions are taking place and compressing the situation, is that correct?

Rob：是的，因此基本上他們是來自於一個靈魂層面，這是我理解的。因此，他們基本上無時不刻地在應對地多維的互動，在那裏我們的線性現實不會影響到事物。柯博拉，我所看待的方式是，這些來自純粹正面層面以及更高維度的超光速存有正來到這裏，我們並不理解，但不時地從一個全息視角來看，他們正阻止某些事情發生，又允許某些事情發生。我們不理解這些。對我們來說，這些似乎並不合邏輯的。為什麼你不去阻止而要讓其發生呢？對我來說，似乎他們在一個全息層面上有一個更高的視角，以確保在某一時刻獲得勝利，某些事情會被允許繼續發生，但當在平行時空現實連續體上的關鍵節點上的時候，他們就能關注並且某些行動將會發生，並將壓縮形勢，這種說法正確嗎？


COBRA – I would not completely agree with that. I would say that if they are able to block something negative, they will. I also do not agree with what Corey was saying that the sphere beings would like to present lessons to humanity because this is the only way to learn some hard lessons. The light forces are never introducing so called hard lessons to various cosmic species to increase understanding, because understanding and awareness does not evolve in that way. This is one of the old programs of the Archons, so I cannot agree with that as well.

COBRA：我不會完全同意這個說法。我會說，如果他們能阻止一些負面事情，他們是可以阻止的。我也不同意Corey所說的，其認為球體存有們想給人類上一堂課，並認為這是學習艱苦課程的唯一方法。光明勢力從來就不會介紹所謂的艱苦課程給各種宇宙種族來加深理解，因為理解與覺知不會通過這個方法來演化。這是執政官其中的一個舊編程，所以我也不同意他所說的。


Rob – OK. Well, from my understanding is that a lot of operations they certainly could. For instance, they could intervene and take out Boko Haram. The resistance movement could arrange for something to happen, yet it’s not taking place.

Rob：好的。以我的理解來看，他們確實可以採取很多行動。比如，他們能介入並消滅博科聖地。抵抗運動能讓一些事發生，然而一直沒有做。


COBRA – OK. I will explain. If the RM does any open operations on the surface of the planet, the strangelet bombs would immediately be detonated and this could erase life from the surface of the planet. This is why they are not doing it. This is why the RM does not interfere directly with the surface of the planet.

COBRA：我要解釋一下。如果抵抗運動在地表採取一些公開行動的話，奇異子炸彈就會馬上爆炸，這將消滅地表生物。這是為什麼他們沒有這麼去做的原因。這是抵抗運動不直接介入地表的原因。


Rob – OK. For me and my viewpoint, and there’s a lot of people who disagree with your view that this is the last place earth to be (liberated) . . . Alex Collier is still . . . he’s in a world of hurt right now, and he told me he hasn’t had contact in over 9 months. He still feels strongly that there are lots of negative elements out there that are still functioning.In Corey’s . . . in the GoodET gentleman . . . he mentioned that there were various groups of the negative groups here that were involved in going on with things. It’s a little premature . . . I’ve talked about some of these things occasionally with people, but I didn’t really feel like I have the exact understanding of this, but to go into a little bit of the galactic landscape of the various groups, from what I understand, this is a question I have for you in regards to the light forces, the Chimera, the Reptilians, the tall greys, the Dows, the reptilian types, the tall whites and other hostile forces, the Omegas and Kalrans — whatever people want to call them.During this situation here, obviously it seems apparent there were good guy bases and bad guy bases on the moon at the same time. What was the situation with these different groups? Do they contact each other and then have these skirmishes in space and then have meetings where there’s a truce like a white flag, and they communicate and the good guys are talking to them? Who’s in charge of that? Is this the Jupiter command? What’s going on there?

Rob：好的。在我看來，有很多人不同意你所說的，地球是最後一個(需要解放)的星球...現在Alex Collier仍然處於受傷的狀態，他告訴我他有9個多月沒有（外星）接觸了。他仍然強烈地覺得，宇宙其他地方仍然有很多負面勢力運作著。用Corey的話來說，他提到曾經有很多負面團體從事過很多事情。可能有點不成熟，我偶爾會和人們說起這些，但我不是真正地感覺到自己對此有準確的理解，但說到宇宙裏的各個團體組織，從我的理解來看，這裏有我想問你的一個問題，關於光明勢力，奇美拉組織，蜥蜴人，高大灰人，盜斯人(來自澤塔網罟星座)，高大白人和其他敵對勢力，還有Omegas和Kalrans，不管人們怎麼稱呼他們。在這個時期，在月球上似乎曾經同時存在著好人的基地，也存在著壞人的基地。對於這些不同團體的情況以前會是怎樣的呢？他們有沒有互相聯絡，有沒有在太空中出現小規模的衝突，然後進行休戰商議，他們有交流，好人正和他們進行交談嗎？誰在負責這些，是土星指揮部嗎？在那裏發生了什麼？

COBRA – OK. If I go a little bit back in history, the moon was quite a prize piece of real estate because it was so close to the earth and many operations from the moon could influence the earth surface quite easily. Yes, many different races had bases on the moon. Some of them were of a positive nature and some of them were of the negative nature.
As the situation progressed, many, many thousand years ago, there were drastic battles taking place on the moon. Over time there were certain agreements which were evolved and they were more and more respected. Different races found out that it was easier for everybody not to fight all the time but to respect certain agreements. Yes, there were tension and, yes, there were disputes, but most of them were resolved through diplomatic means.Each of the races and each of the factions had a very strict territory which was designated to that particular interest group. Most of the time those agreements were respected. All this changed in 1996 with the Archon invasion when there was a huge vast Draconian fleet entering the solar system and they took over the moon completely in 96. Then the liberation forces came, basically between 2001-2004. There was a very strong operation of the light forces to liberate the solar system.
In that time frame . . . most of the locations they were clearing those negative races and there were quite many battles on the moon and most of those negative bases of those races have been removed from the moon. Very few of them were remaining. Most of those remaining were the Chimera group strongholds. Out of those most of them have been removed already. Whatever is remaining on the moon is still classified at this moment.

COBRA：好的，如果讓我去回顧一下歷史，月球非常像一塊領土戰利品，因為它是如此地靠近地球，很多來自月球的行動可以非常容易地影響到地表。是的，許多不同種族在月球上都有過基地。其中有一些是正面的，另外有一些是負面的。隨著局勢的不斷發展，在成千上萬年前，在月球上發生過激烈的戰鬥。隨著時間的推進，有一些協定逐漸被達成，並越來越受到尊重。不同的種族最終發現，讓大家不要一直打來打去是很容易的事情，但需要遵守一些協定。是的，有過一些緊張，有過一些爭論，但其中大部分都是通過外交手段來解決的。每一個種族以及每一個派系都有一塊邊界分明的領地，被指定給特殊利益集團。在大多數時間裏，那些協議是受到尊重的。所有這一切改變發生於1996年的執政官入侵，一支龐大的天龍族艦隊進入了太陽系，他們在1996年完全佔領了月球。然後基本上是在2001－2004年之間，解放勢力來到了這裏。那時，來自光明勢力的一次強大的行動解放了這個太陽系。在那段時間裏，他們清理那些負面種族的基地，在月球上發生了很多的戰鬥，大多數負面種族基地已經被清理了，只有極少的留下來了。大部分剩下的基地都是奇美拉組織的大本營，除了這些基地，大部分都已經清理完畢。現在，月球上具體剩下什麼都還是機密資訊。


Rob – OK. So my question is . . . and I’m going to go onto my own little history, you can correct me if I’m wrong. Of course, the Lyran system – some people say the Pleiades came from Lyra – there’s a great influx information that a lot of spiritual life kind of originated, human life may have originated from the Lyran system or whatever and it spread out. We go back in history to the Pleiades and I understand there’s a couple different civilizations there. There’s one around the star Merope, which seemed to have some negative beings involved there and from what I understand is that there is a positive group, of course, as well. Semjase from Erra near Taygeta is in the Pleiades cluster also.In our ancient earth history, some of the Pleiadians, according to Omnec Onec, had battles on the earth in regards to how much technology and what was going on down here. So groups within the Pleiades had different views of the earth in ancient history and they’re coming back here to kind of correct that wrong originally. Would you agree with that?Could you explain a little bit about the previous Pleiadian interaction here? Folks, the Pleiades is a very large system with several suns in that cluster there. So you know, we can’t say that like everyone is from one planet. There are people that have different views than your neighbor, so we can imagine differing views from different suns. So we can’t lump all Pleiadians or all ET’s with grey skin into one thing. But can you talk a little bit about that?

Rob：好的，那麼我的問題是...我想先說說我所知道的歷史，如果錯了你可以更正我。當然，關於天琴星系，一些人會說昴宿星人是來自於天琴座，有很多流傳的資訊說到了，有很多最初的靈性生命，像人類這樣的生命，可能起源於天琴星系或是什麼的，然後再傳播開來。我們回顧一下昴宿星的歷史，能理解那裏有一些不同的文明。有一支文明在昴宿五附近，在那裏似乎有一些負面存有，以我所知道的是，在那裏也有一個正面團體。Semjase（一位昴宿星女性存有，和瑞士的比利.邁爾有很多接觸） 是來自於靠近Taygeta星的Erra星球，也是在昴宿星團裏。根據Omnec Onec所說，在我們古老地球歷史上，有一些昴宿星人在地球上發生過衝突，是關於技術以及發生的事情。因此，在昴宿星團中有不同的團體，對於古老的地球歷史持有不同的意見，他們正回到這裏並糾正最初的錯誤。你同不同意？你能否解釋一下，先前昴宿星人在地球上的活動呢？各位要明白，昴宿星團是一個非常大的星系，有好幾個恒星。因此，你要明白，我們不能說每一位昴宿星人都來自於同一個星球。所以，即使是鄰居，人們也會有不同的看法，因此我們可以想像來自不同恒星系的不同看法。由此，我們不能把所有昴宿星人或者說是所有外星人，與灰人混為一談。你能否談談這方面的呢？


COBRA – OK. First, I would like to mention that this information that first humans were coming from Lyra is not correct. This information is coming from a book called The Prism of Lyra and everybody is just repeating quotes from that book without checking the facts. The second part of our question, the Pleiadians. Yes, there were rogue elements of the Pleiadian race. They were quite visible in the Pleiadian race until up to about 200K years ago. Yes, they were involved in some battles on this planet throughout the early Atlantian history.I would say this faction was getting less and less involved as they were progressing spiritually. The last fragment of that faction learned their lessons of WWII when they were involved in certain operations on the planet and learned their lesson. I would say the Pleiadian cluster has been completely integrated in the network of light very shortly after the end of WWII. Since then The Pleiadian cluster has been completely accepted into the network of light.

COBRA：好的。首先，我想提及的是，關於人類起源於天琴座的資訊是不正確的。這個資訊是來自於那本叫《天琴座之鏡》的書，人們只是不斷重複引用那本書的內容，而沒有核對事實。我的問題的第二部分是關於昴宿星人的。是的，在昴宿星種族中有過一些不良分子。直到20萬年前，他們在昴宿星種族中都是非常常見的。是的，在整個早期亞特蘭蒂斯歷史文明中，他們確實參與過一些戰鬥。我會說，這個派系隨著其靈性的進化，越來越少地涉及其中。那個派系中的最後一個分支，在第二次世界大戰中學到了他們自己的課程，當時他們牽涉到這顆行星的一些行動，並獲得了教訓。我會說，昴宿星團是在二戰結束之後不久，就完全地融合到光之網格裏。從那時起，昴宿星團完全被納入光之網路中。


Rob – OK. According to Alex Collier, he got quite involved in the various different races, the oxygen based races vs the hydrogen-based races, and that, of course, the reptilians are a hydrogen-based race. He said they couldn’t travel beyond the speed of light. He had some other things he talked about.One of the things I found interesting – you have Sirius A and Sirius B. He said that there are some beings in the Sirius B system that were quite negative. They had some conflicts with some – this is ancient history – they had some conflicts with some people in the Orion system. According to Alex, some beings . . . and to solve some of their political situations, the humans in Sirius B had some sort of marriage between the beings in the Orion system creating what we would call the Tall Greys.And so the reptilians control the Tall Greys, who control what are called the Dow Greys or the Zeta Reptilians and the Mantoid races, and, of course, there’s this whole kind of scenario where there’s a hierarchical structure of these negative beings. Were these beings in Sirius B, as Alex Collier said, from your information correct? The Tall Greys are an offspring of a hybrid in order to kind of stop a war between the Orion’s and the Sirius B so that they could have peace amongst themselves while they kind of were both on a semi-hostile agenda?

Rob：好的，根據Alex Collier的說法，他非常深入地接觸到了不同的種族，比如氧基種族，氫基種族。當然蜥蜴人是氫基種族。他說他們不可能超光速旅行。他也談到了其他一些事。其中我發現一件很有趣的事是，你有提到過天狼星A與天狼星B。他說在天狼星B上有一些非常負面的存有。他們曾與獵戶座的一些存有過衝突，這是古老的歷史。根據Alex的說法，一些存有演化了他們的政治形勢，在天狼星B的存有與獵戶座的存有進行了通婚，製造出了我們稱之為高大灰人的種族。於是蜥蜴人控制了高大灰人，而高大灰人又控制了被稱為盜斯的灰人，或是齊塔蜥蜴人和Mantoid種族，這是一個整體劇本，有一個關於負面存有的層級結構。Alex Collier說這些存有是在天狼星B上，從你的資訊來看這是真的嗎？高大灰人是一種混血產物的後代，是為了阻止獵戶座與天狼星B之間的戰爭，以便雙方都在半敵對的狀況下達成和平？


COBRA – OK. The Sirius B race was having a war with the Orion Draco complex. Many of the representatives of the Sirius B race have been interacting with the surface population of this planet throughout human history. Their agenda was not completely positive but not completely negative.
They were the ones who were perceiving themselves as an advanced race and sometimes they were using human slaves for their work. They were seeing themselves as the masters. This is something I don’t completely agree with. They were not treating humans as their equals. This is what I would say about that particular race.They were sometimes using technology for their advantage unethically. This is what I would say. I can also say that recently that faction has been integrated in the Sirian Alliance and is now working together with the Galactic Confederation as well. Yes, there were some genetic civilization programs because Sirius B people wanted to infiltrate the Orion complex and they have created some hybrid races which are not having any effect whatsoever on the cosmic situation.

COBRA：好的，天狼星B種族有過與獵戶座天龍星複合體的一場戰爭。很多天狼星B種族的代表，在整個人類歷史進程中一直與地表人類進行著互動。他們的議程並不完全是正面的，也不完全是負面的。他們會把自己看成是一個更高級的種族，有時候他們會使用人類奴隸來為他們工作。他們把自己看成為主人。這是我並不完全同意的。他們並沒有平等地對待人類。我要說的是一些特殊種族。在過去，他們有時採用不道德的方式使用技術，並獲取優勢。這就是我要說的。我也可以說，在最近那個派系已經被整合到天狼星聯盟之中，現在也正與銀河聯邦進行合作。是的，曾出現過一些基因文明項目（通過基因來創造文明），因為天狼星 B的存有想滲透進獵戶座複合體，他們已製造出一些混血種族，但無論如何，對宇宙局面不會造成任何影響。


Rob – Right, I often don’t go into outer space politics like that because a lot of that stuff doesn’t matter, but with GoodET coming out with his information I kind of wanted to address some of that stuff.

Rob：好的。我常常不想談及到像這樣的地外政治問題，因為很多這些東西都沒什麼意義。但基於GoodET所提到的這些資訊，我只是想說一下這其中的一些方面。


COBRA – OK. I would say that this information does matter for various reasons. The first one is that the exopolitical situation greatly influences the geopolitical situation much more than people imagine. For example, I will give you one example. The Bush’s and the Kissinger’s and all those people still have their power only because there are elements beyond the scope of this planet that are supporting them.If you understand what is going on in the solar system, you will understand who is behind the wars, what is happening, what is taking place with the Eastern Alliance, because there are forces beyond this planet that are supporting Putin. There are forces beyond this planet that are supporting the Eastern Alliance. There are other forces that originate from beyond this planet that are supporting the Cabal. If we understand those underground mechanics, we will have much clearer picture of what is going on the surface.

COBRA：好的，我想說，出於各種原因這個資訊不是無關緊要的。首先一點的是，星際政治形勢對(地球的)地緣政治形勢的影響，遠比人們所想像的還要大得多。我給你舉個例子，布希家族和基辛格，所有這些人仍然掌握著權力，只是因為超越這顆行星的一些地外因素一直在支持著他們。如果你理解到太陽系裏發生了什麼，你將明白誰在戰爭的後面，知道正在發生的事情，知道東盟正發生著什麼，因為有地外勢力在支持著普京，有地外勢力在支持著東盟。有其他起源於地球之外的勢力在支持著陰謀集團。如果我們能理解這些地下運作機制，我們將會對地表所發生的事有一個更清晰的認識。


Rob – Yes, I agree with that. I generally . . . these mechanics and exactly what they are for . . . the average person . . . it’s hearsay coming from you or Collier or someone else. It’s good to know that this is influencing, but I meant for the average person in their day to day life, the average lightworker down here, a lot of people become ungrounded and worry so much about what is going on in outer space and speculate and their mind runs rampant as opposed to purifying their self and raising their vibration, I meant it kind of in that way. I agree with you. It is important now that people come to understand there are different groups. Could you talk a little bit about Sirius A, since we talked about Sirius B? Sirius A, I understand, is the home of the blue lodge and the mission of the 144.000 ascended masters to earth, is that correct?

Rob：是的，我同意。通常來說，這些運作方式，準確地說是針對普通人的機制，都是來自於你，或者Collier及其他人的傳說。知道它們正產生著影響是一件好事，但我意思是說，對於日常生活中的普通人來說，對於那些普通的光之工作者來說，很多人都感覺到沒有穩定的基礎，擔心太多關於外太空所發生的事情，不斷思索，胡思亂想，而不是去淨化自己並提高自身頻率，我大概是這樣的想法。但我同意你所說的，現在讓人們去理解這些不同團體是很重要的。既然我們談到了天狼星B，你能否說一下天狼星A呢？我知道天狼星A是藍色會團的家鄉，帶著144000名揚升大師到地球的使命，對嗎？


COBRA – That is absolutely correct. Sirius A is the Beacon of Light for this local cluster of stars in this local sector of the galaxy. Sirius A was holding the light when the Archon invasion happened and filled this quadrant of this galaxy with trillions upon trillions of dark entities. Because of Sirius A we are still alive and here. Because of Sirius A and their light, I am talking to you right now.

COBRA：這是絕對正確的，在銀河系本地磁區之中，天狼星A是本地星團的光之燈塔。當執政官入侵的時候，將數以萬億的黑暗實體投放到銀河系這個區域的時候，天狼星A始終守持著光。因為天狼星A的存在，所以我們現在仍然活著。因為天狼星A以及它們的光，我現在還能和你說話。


Rob – Yea, that’s what Fred Bell was a very strong proponent of – the Blue Lodge and the Sirius A groups there as well. So it resonates with me there. Another question I have is in regards to these giant sphere ships, just to be clear. These are not mistaken by people with this constant talk of Nibiru and this hidden planet or star within our solar system, correct?

Rob：是的，是這樣，Fred Bell也是藍色會團以及天狼星A團體
的強烈支持者。因此，這與我產生了共鳴。我的另一個問題是關於那些巨大的球體飛船，這裏僅僅是澄清一下。它們不會被人們所一直談論的尼比魯給弄錯，是吧？它是一顆隱藏的行星，或是太陽系中的恒星，對嗎？。


COBRA – OK. Those sphere ships or sphere star gates or portals whatever you want to name them have absolutely no connection with so called Nibiru or any other entity or planet or object people are referring to. Nibiru is completely and absolutely misinformation.

COBRA：那些球體飛船，或者說是球形星門或門戶，不管你叫什麼，它們與所謂的Nibiru，或是人們所提到的任何實體或行星或天體，都沒有任何聯繫。尼比魯是絕對完全錯誤的資訊。


Rob – Very good. I’m really glad to hear that. From what I understand, the Nibiruans as they are depicted in the ancient Egyptian hieroglyphics, were actually beings with kind of wings, which may have been a hybrid type of Orion type being, and these Nibirians were just basically one group that were kind of using earth people as slaves and allowing themselves to be considered as masters, kind of like Sirius B.Can you talk about that? Is Nibiru a planet, a mothership? From the history of Zecharia Sitchin, it is supposedly planet X. Dr. Frank Stranges has indicated that is NOT correct. You say that is incorrect. What is the story of the ancient history of Nibiru? Was this a giant mothership that was mining here along with other groups? Was this one group of beings, the Annunaki, but there were many other groups out here? What is the story – if you can get us, kind of correct the story of Zecharia Sitchin and put it in perspective?
I know we’ve talked about it before, and you’ve said it’s not that important. But again, it’s just endless with people. I’d really like to put this to bed. For those of you who want to ask question after this about Nibiru, we will not address them. Cobra, can you go into this a little bit? When was the Nibiru interaction and is that the name for a group of people or a mothership? Where do they come from and what was that history?

Rob：很好。我很高興能聽到這個。從我的理解來看，從古埃及象形文字中所描述的尼比魯人實際上是有翅膀的存有，可能是一種來自獵戶座的混血種族。基本上，這些尼比魯人僅僅只是一個團體組織，並將地球人看作為其奴隸，讓自己被看成為主人，就好像天狼星B那樣。你能否談談，尼比魯是一顆星球，還是一艘母艦呢？從撒迦利亞.西琴的歷史來看，它似乎應該是X行星。但Frank Stranges博士指出這是不正確的。你也說這是不正確的，那麼關於尼比魯的古代歷史故事到底是怎樣的呢？它是不是一艘大型的母艦，和其他團體一道在地球上曾經挖過礦呢？這些團體中有一個團體存有是不是阿努那奇人呢？是否有其他團體也在呢？故事到底是怎樣的呢?是否你可以為我們更正一下撒迦利亞.西琴的故事，將其以某種觀點來闡述一下呢？我知道我們以前談過這個，你也說過這些並不重要。但再次要提一下，僅僅是人們不斷地問到這個問題，我真地很想把這類問題放到床底下，不想再提及它們。柯博拉，你是否可以再談論一下呢？與尼比魯的交流是什麼時候開始的，那個名字是針對一個團體組織還是一艘母艦呢？它們從哪里來的呢？它們的歷史是怎樣的呢？


COBRA – OK. Sitchen was referring to Sumerian tablets. He was attempting to translate those tablets. He, in that position, was not scientifically correct.. But yes, the Sumerian text was talking about certain beings. You can describe them as winged beings.They came from a certain star system beyond our solar system. And yes, some of them came from Sirius B. I have described before the traits of Sirius B people. They were not the only ones. There was a group of many different races that were actually mixed among the ruling race in all of Sumeria. They were actually the ones that were forming the Sumerian city-states. Many of them were tied to the Archons, and their agenda was, first, to do some genetic experimentation and, second, to suppress the goddess energy. This is the short story of Nibiru. It has nothing to do with a certain object that some people named Nibiru that is supposed to enter our solar system and create cataclysm. This is absolutely not correct.

COBRA：好的。西琴參考的是蘇美爾人的石板。他曾經試圖想要翻譯那些石板。但在那個位置上，他並沒有科學地翻譯正確。是的，蘇美爾人的文本是談論到一些存有。你可以把他們描述為有翼的存有。他們來自於我們太陽系之外的某個星系。是的，其中一些存有來自於天狼星B。我上面已談過天狼星B人的特徵。他們不只是唯一的存有，實際上是一個由許多不同種族混合而成的組織，形成一個統治族類來管治著所有蘇美爾人。他們實際上是構成蘇美爾城邦的存有。他們許多人是與執政官有聯繫的，他們的議程首先是進行一基因實驗，其次是壓制女神能量。這就是尼比魯的簡短故事。這與人們所稱之的尼比魯天體沒有關係，這個天體被假想過要進入到我們太陽系，並引發災難。這樣的理解絕對是不正確的。


Rob – OK. Thank you. I’ve said that many times. People like to hear it from you. So I appreciate that. The other thing I’d like to know and a lot of people have asked this and there is an average person. You and I have an absolute feeling of divine connection. In terms of eternity and the ET situation, we’re talking about hundreds of thousands of years.
What’s changed so much in the last 30K years, or whenever the Niburians, or the people from Sirius B, or the groups that were here . . . All these groups are down here interacting and it seems like they all have agendas in doing things – kind of using the earth as their own for whatever reason they want. What is changed now? Has humanity reached a level of sovereignty that we’re to be respected now and what is really going to change?
How do we know that these ET’s aren’t just fighting over our earth and peoples? I mean, you and I know. What can you give other people here in terms of confidence that these different groups that are vying for what’s going on here that it’s not going to be just another group with a slightly different viewpoint that we still may get exploited that even though they are a positive group they are not that hostile but that they might not manipulate us into treaties or agreements with them that might benefit them more than us? I mean, what’s really changed? How do we know that these benevolent groups . . . are they all going to leave us alone, or are they all going to be vying for influence here? And what’s changed so much that we can trust all of this new interaction that we are hopefully going to be seeing for the average person?

Rob：好的，謝謝。我曾經已經說過很多次，但人們喜歡聽到你親口說出來。因此，我很高興看到你的解釋。另一件我希望知道的事情是，有許多人問到過這個問題，這個問題很普通。你和我有一種絕對神聖連接的感覺，關於永恆事物以及外星人狀況，我們有討論到成千上萬年的歷史。在過去3萬年的歷史之中，什麼改變是最大的？不管是尼比魯人，還是天狼星B人，或是來到此的其他組織，所有這些團體一直在與人類進行著互動，似乎他們做這些都是有著自己的議程，不論出於什麼原因，都是把地球作為他們的所有物。現在這有什麼變化嗎？人類是否已經達到了一定程度的主權，使得我們受到了尊重呢？接下來要發生什麼變化呢？我們如何知道這些外星人不是在為了爭奪地球和人類而打架呢？我的意思是，你和我都知道。你怎麼給其他人信心，讓人們相信，這些不同團體現在正在爭奪的，並不是像以前的團體那樣，我們會被利用，哪怕他們是正面團體，而不是帶有敵意的。他們不會操縱我們簽一些有利於他們而不是我們的條約或協議，是這樣嗎？我的意思是，真正的改變是什麼？我們該如何瞭解這些善良團體的，他們都是要讓我們獨自發展的嗎，還是說爭相對我們施加影響力呢？有什麼大的變化使我們相信這些新的互動交流，對我們普通人來說是我們所希望看到的呢？


COBRA – OK. First, you need to understand that history does not repeat in cycles. It repeats in spirals. That means that evolution accelerates and each cycle is faster than the previous one. Those cycles converge. The convergence point of those cycles is the compression breakthrough. It simply means that there is a certain purification process taking place throughout the galaxy that converges on this planet. Because this planet is, number one, the prime real estate for the galaxy. This is why so many different races were claiming it for themselves. Second, it is the convergence point for the transformation of galactic darkness. As we are coming closer to the convergence point, things accelerate and escalate. This is exactly what is happening now. At the moment of the compression breakthrough, the light penetrates through and is victorious. This is the moment when the darkness and all those different races with those different agendas can not play their tricks any more because they will be cleared out. This is one aspect of the story. The other aspect is people many times tend to perceive the situation from a victim perspective. Oh, I’m a pure human and there are other races manipulating over my destiny, when in fact each person, each of us, is a sovereign being with full intention of the I Am Presence, and if you connect with that potential and practice it, you will not be able to be manipulated by any body with no Draconian overloads or any other being. All those fears are based on, I would say, not putting enough attention on your own connection with your own higher self and your own power of manifestation.

COBRA：好的，首先，你需要明白歷史不會週期地重演，而是螺旋般地再現。那意味著進化的加速，每一個週期都會比前一個更快。那些週期會彙聚，而彙聚點就是壓縮突破。這簡單地意味著，在整個銀河系，一個淨化過程正在發生著，並且會彙聚到這顆行星上。因為，首先，這顆行星是銀河系的主要的財產，這就是為什麼有很多不同種族宣稱對其擁有所有權。其次，這裏是銀河系黑暗轉化的彙聚點。隨著我們不斷地接近彙聚點，事情開始加速並逐步升級。這恰恰就是現在所發生的。在壓縮突破的那一刻，光會穿透進來，並獲得勝利。這將是黑暗以及所有有著不同議程的種族不能再耍花樣的時刻，因為他們將被清理掉。這就是這個故事的一個方面。另一方面是，人們傾向于以受害者的角度來感知現狀。“噢，我是一個純潔的人類，其他種族正在操縱著我的命運。”但事實上，我們每一個人，我們每一位都是具有主權的存有，具有充分“我是”臨在的完整意圖。如果你與那種潛能進行了連接並練習，你將不會被任何人所操縱，包括天龍族人或其他種族的操控。我會說，所有那些恐懼都是基於，沒有將足夠的注意力放在與你高我的連接上，放在你自己顯化的力量上。


Rob – That’s very good. Now you’re talking my language and this is something I’ve really been wanting people to get and for those people who are following Cobra’s information at PFC again, Cobra and I always emphasize, don’t sit back and just watch the news reports that are going on. Please step up and make changes in your life and in your spiritual connections. We’ll be training and going over a lot of that in my conference in Bolivia and Mt. Shasta. We’ll be going over various connection exercises with meditation. Folks, we’re going to get to your questions now.

Rob：很好。現在，你正談到我想要說的，這也正是我一直想讓人們獲得的東西，對於那些在“準備網站”上追隨柯博拉資訊的人們，柯博拉和我又再一次強調，不要總是坐下來，看看電視裏的新聞報導發生了什麼。請邁開你的腳步，在你們的生活中，在你們的靈性連接中做出改變。我們將會在玻利維亞和雪士達山的會議上進行培訓教導，會詳談這些內容。我們將會通過冥想來重溫各種連接練習。各位，現在我們將繼續問問題。

Rob – So we’re going to go right forward here with a bunch of questions. We’ll see how many we can get through here. Let’s start off with this. A young girl who follows us – she’s 14 years old – she wants to ask her question. Shout out for the youngsters. Who are the first sentient beings on earth?

Rob：因此，我們將帶著一大堆問題徑直地提出來，看看我們今天能問多少問題，讓我們馬上開始吧。一位年輕女孩一直跟隨著我們，她14歲，想問她的問題。讓我們從最年起的提問者開始，她的問題是，誰是地球上第一位有覺知的存有呢？


COBRA – There were always sentient beings on earth because they were so called guardian beings that were responsible for creating life on this planet that were starting to evolve biological life from viruses, microbes and on and on and on. They were here billions of years ago.

COBRA：在地球上一直都存在著有覺知的存有，因為他們就是所謂的守護者存有，並負責在這顆行星上創造生命，這些生命會從病毒，微生物等開始，進行生物學上的進化。在幾十億年前，他們就在這裏。


Rob – OK. There’s your answer. Billions of years (beings) and multi-dimensional. As far as physical beings, that’s probably so far in antiquity that no one can know exactly. The guy Gregg Braden in Awakening to Zero point. He says when the earth’s reaches A RESONANCE frequency of 36 cycles per second, that’s when we reach zero point – the collapse of the space time continuum and the knoll zone which also collapses. Some reports say that the earth’s resonance frequency is 16. If that’s true, we may be having . . . if he’s correct then . . . that would be that the ET’s are holding off. Can you talk about . . What is the correct resonance frequency right now?

Rob：好的，那是你的回答，有幾十億年，並且是多維度的。至於物理上的(有覺知)存有，迄今為止可能太古老而沒有人準確地知道。Gregg Braden在“覺醒到零點”這本書裏有說到，當地球達到每秒36週期的共振頻率的時候，就是我們所要達到的零點，時空連續體會塌陷，諾爾區也會塌陷。一些報告說，地球的共振頻率是16。如果是那樣的話，那會是外星人在拖延。你能否談談現在正確的振動頻率是多少呢？


COBRA – OK. There is a lot of misinformation among new age circles about the Schumann resonance frequency. Actually, there are multiple Schumann resonance frequencies. The main one is about 8 Hz. That has remained the same. That has not changed.

COBRA：好的，在新紀元週期中，關於舒曼共振頻率有很多錯誤的資訊。實際上，存在著多個舒曼共振頻率。主要的頻率大約是8赫茲，這個一直保持不變，沒有改變過。


Rob – OK. Thank you. Is there any way we can see tachyon particles with our eyes?

COBRA – Some very gifted, spiritually gifted individuals can see them with their inner eye. To see them physically, it’s almost impossible.

Rob：好的，謝謝。我們有沒有什麼辦法通過眼睛看到超光速粒子呢？

COBRA：一些很有天賦的，具有靈性天賦的人可以通過內在之眼看到它。要用肉眼去看，幾乎不可能。


Rob – Is there any particular way we can feel it?

COBRA – Of course, those that are sensitive can feel them. Many people can experience their very strong healing effects.

Rob：有沒有特別的方式我們可以感覺的到呢？

COBRA：當然，那些敏感的人能感覺到超光速粒子。許多人可以體驗到其強大的治療效果。

Rob – OK. Those giant sink holes that have been appearing. Can you talk . . . Were they created by someone, and if so how and what is their purpose – the giant holes that go way down and endless all over?

COBRA – Yes, yes. They were created by the RM for the same purpose the Pleiadians were creating the crop circles for human beings to start to ask questions. To break this monotonous matrix which was created by the Archons.

Rob：好的。那些巨大的下沉洞一直在出現。你能否談一下，如果它們是被創造出來的，如果是那樣的話，那些坑洞是怎麼產生的，有什麼目的嗎？它們一直不斷到處出現，好像沒有止境。

COBRA：是的。它們是由抵抗運動所造的，出於同樣目的，昴宿星人也為人類製造過麥田圈，讓人類開始提出問題，以便打破執政官所創造的這個單調無變化的矩陣。

Rob – OK. Another question. Would it be possible for Chimera members to surrender if they realize the game is over for them? Is surrender an option or would they be killed by their own kind? Or would they never be able to consider that?

COBRA – Surrender is always an option. The ones who surrender will have an easier way out. But most of those types usually never consider surrender as an option. But surrender did happen in the past, is happening now and will continue to happen in the future.

Rob：好的，另一個問題，如果齊美拉組織認識到他們的遊戲要結束了，有沒有可能會投降呢？投降會是一個選項嗎，或者他們會被自己的人殺死呢？或者他們從來就沒考慮過投降？

COBRA：投降一直都是一個選項。那些投降的人將會有更容易的出路。但大部分那些人通常都不會考慮投降。但投降在以往確實有發生過，現在也在發生著，未來也會繼續發生。

Rob – Are there female members among the Chimera?

COBRA – This is classified information.

Rob：在奇美拉組織裏有沒有女性成員呢？

COBRA：這是機密資訊。

Rob – OK. Can you talk about any progress with the Chimera group at this point in time?

COBRA – When I will be able to release more, I will release it properly through the blog.

Rob：在這個時刻，你能否談談關於奇美拉組織的的進展情況嗎？

COBRA：當我可以公開更多的時候，我會適當地通過博客來公開這些資訊。

Rob – OK. When we have the tachyon healing chambers coming out, will these be able to immediately reverse cancer, Alzheimer’s and other life threatening diseases?

COBRA – OK. We have the basic version of the tachyon healing chambers already on the surface. They are built. They are not able to heal the diseases directly, but they heal the inner source of the disease and the person then goes through an inner transformation and that can help healing the disease. The real strong chambers will be available only after the event.

Rob：好的，當我們在地表上製造出超光速粒子療愈艙後，這些東西能否馬上逆轉癌症，老年癡呆症，以及其他危及生命的疾病呢？


COBRA：好的，在地表上我們已經有了基礎版本的超光速粒子療愈艙，已經造出來了。這些療愈艙不能把病直接治好，但它們可以療愈疾病的內在之源，然後病人經過一個內部的轉化，以此來幫助治療疾病。真正功能強大的療愈艙只會在“事件”之後才能出現。

Rob – OK. For the average human in regards to this scalar plasma field mind control implant network, does the frequency that the human is at have anything to do whether the weapon will work, in other words, if someone is extremely connected to their I Am presence, will the plasma scalar field network be less effective or can it be stopped completely?

COBRA – It will be less effective.

Rob：好的。 關於等離子標量場的腦控植入物網路，對於普通人而言，人們所在的頻率是否會影響到那個武器的運作呢?換句話說，如果有人與“我是”臨在進行了極其緊密的連接，那麼等離子標量網路對他的效果會更少一些嗎？或者是說，對他完全無效？

COBRA：效果會更少。

Rob – OK. Can you talk about star-seeds? Will their personal role and mission be revealed to them before the event?

COBRA – OK. For the vast majority, no. There are certain individuals who have been working on themselves quite much and following their missions. For those, their missions are going to be revealed more and more every day. For the rest of them, they will most likely wait for the event.


Rob：明白，能不能談談星際種子呢？他們的個人角色以及使命會在“事件”之前向他們揭露嗎？

COBRA：對於絕大多數的星際種子來說是不會的。但有某些人一直在非常努力地履行著他們的使命。對於那些人來說，每一天他們的使命都會越來越多地被揭示。對於其餘的人，他們幾乎可能都是在等待著“事件”。


Rob – Can you talk about the sub lunar operations that follow the MOSS operation that you mentioned in one of your last posts?

COBRA – This is, unfortunately, still classified information, and when I am able to talk about it, I will through my blog.

Rob：你能否談談，在緊隨MOSS行動（你在最近一篇博客中提及的）之後的月下行動呢？

COBRA：很遺憾這仍然是機密資訊，當我可以說的時候，我會在博客上公開出來


Rob – (laugh). Here’s another question; Is there anything that will be yet another obstacle to get passed in order to start the event?

COBRA – OK. When we clear those strangelet and toplet bombs, the plasmatic ones, it will be a huge breakthrough and it will be felt. When we do that, it will be very close.

Rob：這裏有另外一個問題。有沒有另外的一些事情會成為“事件”觸發的障礙呢？需要被跨過呢？

COBRA：當我們清理了那些等離子層面的奇異子炸彈和頂誇克炸彈的時候，那將是一次巨大的突破，並能被感覺得到。當我們完成那件事的時候，“事件”將會非常接近。


Rob – Obviously, there still may be other obstacles that were not known about that are in process, but that’s the final one, that’s the ultimate one. Nothing more beyond. . .

COBRA – There might be or there might not be. I would not say one way or the other. We are dealing with the Chimera group for the last year or so and there is a lot of progress.

Rob：很明顯，在此過程中仍然會有其他以前所不知道的障礙，但這會是最後的障礙，是終極障礙，沒有更多其他障礙了....

COBRA：可能有，也可能沒有其他障礙。不管怎樣，我不會說是終極的障礙，去年大概一年的時間，我們都在對付奇美拉組織，並且有了很多進展。

Rob – OK. Are there reptilians in a few of them in physical form at all here? A few maybe?

COBRA – Not in reptilian bodies. Incarnated in human bodies, yes.

Rob：好的。在他們之中，究竟有沒有物理形態的蜥蜴人呢？可能會有一些嗎？

COBRA：不是以蜥蜴人身體，而是以人類的身體存在。

Rob – OK. A lot of people are asking about Brazil. Brazil is part of the BRICS. A lot of people are upset they have a female president now. Is there infiltration in Brazil? The Cabal is still in control down there?

Rob：明白，很多人正問到巴西。巴西是金磚國家一名成員，很多人對於有一位女總統而感到沮喪。巴西有沒有被滲透呢？陰謀集團仍然控制著那裏嗎？

COBRA – OK. People need to understand that the progress of light forces with the Eastern Alliance does not mean that all those countries are simply turning into paradise. There is still a lot of Cabal influence in China, in Brazil, in India, in all of those countries, in Russia. But there is a strong light presence infiltrated in the government structures of those countries. They have a priority of tasks. Number one priority is the creation of the alternative financial system.Many of the other aspects of the government structures of those countries simply have to wait because they are not strong enough yet to deal with everything at once. There is still a lot of corruption in Brazil – a lot of Cabal influence. But you can observe certain positive trends. The lessening of the influence of international corporations, the lessening of the influence of US military and the lessening of the influence of the petrodollar. You can easily check those trends in Brazil, in China, in Russia and other BRICS countries.

COBRA：人們需要明白，光明勢力在東盟所取得的進展，並不意味著那些國家正變成天堂。在中國，巴西，印度，俄羅斯，以及所有那些國家，仍然有許多來自陰謀集團的影響。但有一股強大的光已滲透到那些國家的政府架構之中。他們有任務的優先順序。第一優先順序就是可替代金融系統的建立。那些國家政府架構的其他方面不得不等一等，因為他們並沒有強大到足以馬上處理所有事情的程度。在巴西仍然有很多腐敗，仍然有很多陰謀集團的影響。但你可以觀察到一些正面的趨勢。跨國公司的影響力正在減少，來自美國的軍事力量，以及石油美元的影響力正在減少。你可以很容易地發現到這些趨勢，在巴西，中國，俄羅斯，以及其他金磚國家的那些趨勢。

Rob – OK. Thank you. Is the operation a plan after the event – Operation Dreamland?

COBRA – Operation Dreamland will explode with bursts of creativity after the event. It will be the new renaissance.

Rob：明白，非常感謝。在“事件”之後是否有一個“夢境行動”的計畫呢？

COBRA：“夢境行動”將是“事件”之後創造力的爆發。這就是新文藝復興。

Rob – Can you give people a little more information about Dreamland. A lot of us know but a lot of us don’t. What is Operation Dreamland, real quick?

COBRA – OK. I would just tell you to go to my blog, search for Operation Dreamland and read that post.

Rob：關於“夢境行動”，你能否告訴我們更多一點的相關資訊呢？我們中有很多人知道，也有很多人不知道。什麼是夢境行動？

COBRA：去我的博客搜索一下就能找到相關文章，然後閱讀一下。

Rob – Very good. Can you talk about the question here: Was the famine in Ireland engineered because of the Irish people’s awakening – The Irish Famine – or was that a natural phenomena?

Rob：很好。這裏有一個問題，你能否談一下，愛爾蘭饑荒是不是有意製造出來的？只是因為愛爾蘭人民的覺醒，還是說是一個自然現象呢？(注：俗稱馬鈴薯饑荒，是一場發生於1845年至1852年間的饑荒。在這7年的時間內，英國統治下的愛爾蘭人口銳減了將近四分之一)

COBRA – It was, of course. It was engineered for many objectives. The first one was to create a lot of cheap slave labor. Many of the Irish then went to US and worked in horrible conditions in US because of that famine. The other reason was to suppress the Goddess energy which was quite strong in Ireland. This was the plan of the Archons – and also to suppress the awakening of the Irish as a nation and because the point of the 
Cabal was to unify them with the United Kingdom.

COBRA：當然，這場饑荒是出於很多目的而有意造成的。第一個目的是，製造出大量便宜的奴工。由於饑荒，很多愛爾蘭人當時前往了美國，在可怕的環境下工作著。其他原因是，壓制在愛爾蘭的非常強大的女神能量。這是執政官的一個計畫，也是壓制愛爾蘭作為一個國家而覺醒，因為陰謀集團的想法是要把愛爾蘭統一到英國控制之下。

Rob – OK. Here’s another question I got a lot of. I don’t know the Commander Valiant Thor and his people mentioned that Dr. Frank [Stranges] said that there were going to be a lot more plane crashes in the future. It seems like there’s one every couple months now. Of course everyone wants to know – was the Cabal involved in that crash into that mountain recently? Can you give us the reason?

COBRA – Yes, of course. There are many reasons. The first one is there were certain people on board that they wanted to have them silenced. The second reason they want to maintain fear among the surface population to maintain control.

Rob：明白，這裏有另外一個很多人所提及的問題。我並不知道指揮官Valiant Thor, 他的人有提及到Dr.Frank曾經說到過，在未來會有很多飛機會墜毀。似乎每隔幾個月就要掉下一架飛機。當然，人們想要知道陰謀集團是否有牽涉到最近的那次(德國)飛機撞山事件嗎？你能不能告訴我們原因呢？

COBRA：是的，當然有很多原因。第一個原因是，在那架飛機上有一些陰謀集團想讓其閉嘴的人。第二個原因是，維持地表人類的恐懼，以保持控制。

Rob – OK. It is the goal of the Cabal to reduce the human population, and since they have control over the non-physical plane, isn’t it more effective if they let souls incarnate here?

COBRA – OK. It is just the goal of one faction of the Cabal to reduce the population. That is the Rockefeller, Kissinger, Bush, Illuminati faction. The other factions do not agree with that plan. This is one of the reasons why that plan is not successful. It will not be successful. The vast majority of the Cabal want to keep the human population and not for it to be reduced, because they actually like to have a lot of slaves around.

Rob：明白，陰謀集團的目的是減少地球人口，既然他們已經控制了非物質層面，如果不讓靈魂轉世豈不是更有效嗎？

COBRA：削減人口只是陰謀集團中一個派系的目的，他們是洛克菲勒、基辛格、布希光明會派。其他派系並不同意這個計畫。這就是計畫並沒有成功的一個其中原因。這個計畫不會成功。絕大多數陰謀集團成員是想要保持人口的數量，而不是要減少它，因為實際上他們想要很多的奴隸。

Rob – OK. Someone’s asked a question about the Ain Sophia is associated with the Nag Hammadi material. Does that come from a different star system? What is the source of the Sophia, the Pistis Sophia?

COBRA – OK. Sophia is the ancient archetype of wisdom incarnated as Goddess Earth. Goddess earth is a living entity. It’s not the physical planet itself, but the consciousness of the planet that came from the galactic central sun 4.6 billions years ago, and incarnated, anchored that wisdom presence into this physical planet.

Rob：明白，有人有問到一個問題，是關於Ain Sophia與拿戈瑪第文稿之間的聯繫。那是否來自於一個不同的星系呢？Pistis Sophia的起源是什麼呢？

COBRA： 好的，Sophia是化身為地球女神的古老智慧原型。地球女神是一個活生生的存在體，它並不是物質地球本身，而是行星意識，是於46億年前來自于銀河中央太陽，並顯化錨定這種智慧臨在到這個物理行星之上。

Rob – OK. Alfred Lambremont Webber said that that there was a discussion. Some people say that the earth is actually being moved by benevolent ET’s out of the solar system. Is the solar system being cleared and reconstructed? Alex Collier does talk about planets being engineered by very powerful forces changing their orbits.Omnec Onec also talked about the earth having two moons and that one of them was exploded and one of the reasons that we are a little more susceptible to imbalances because we only have one moon. What is going on? Will there be any, I guess I won’t say, terraforming, but solar forming of changing the orbits? Is that correct that it’s possible to actually move planets within different orbits by super galactic forces?

Rob：明白，Alfred Lambremont Webber曾說過，有過一次討論。有一些人說，地球正被善良的外星人給移動著，會被移出太陽系。太陽系是不是正在清理並重構呢？Alex Collier談到行星能被強大的力量而改變軌道。Omnec Onec也說到地球曾經有兩個月亮，其中一個爆炸了，所以我們更容易受到不平衡影響的一個原因，就是我們只有一個月亮。正發生了什麼呢?會不會有，當然我不會說是地球化，而會說是改變軌道的太陽系化的改變呢？實際上是有可能，通過銀河超級力量將行星在不同軌道上進行移動，這樣說對嗎？ 

COBRA – OK. Yes it is possible to change orbits of planets and it did happen in galactic history. But this is not planned for this planet or for any larger object in the solar system in the near future. What is being planned is the vibrational change of the solar system and this is happening already. And smaller changes on the surface of planets in the solar system are happening as well. This is confirmed the last few decades there are changes in weather the patterns, intensity of magnetic fields and other parables on the surface of many planets inside the solar system. I will not comment about the polar shift. It might or might not happen.

COBRA：是的，改變行星軌道是有可能的，也在銀河系歷史上發生過。但在很近的未來，還沒有為這顆行星或者這個太陽系中的任何大型天體制訂出這項改變計畫。現在所進行的計畫是太陽系振動頻率的改變，這已經在發生了。在太陽系裏，各個行星地表也都在發生著小改變。在過去的幾十年中，在太陽系裏的很多行星地表上，氣候模式、磁場強度以及其他方面都發生了改變。我不會對極移進行評論，這可能會發生，也可能不會發生。

Rob – OK. There’s a lot of people talking about the future time-lines and some of the ways, you’re saying breakthrough is near, and of course that gets a lot of people on the edge of their seats who follow you. Is this. . . they’re wondering about a time line, if possible. The breakthrough could possibly happen in late May. You talk about a target date in January for financial re-set. A lot of people are kind of . . . I guess it’s keeping people on their toes, and we don’t want the Cabal to know when things are happening anyway. What is the situation with these potential time lines, can you tell us? Is there a particular time in this next coming window when things may be looking good?

Rob：有很多人談到了未來的時間線，以及一些存在的方向，你一直都在說突破很近了，當然，這讓很多坐著的人開始站起來跟隨著你。他們想知道一條時間線，如果可能的話。突破可能會在五月底發生嗎？你也談到了明年一月份金融重置的目標日期。這讓很多人翹首以待，但我們不想讓陰謀集團知道事情會在什麼時候發生。關於這些潛在時間線的情況是如何的呢？你能否告訴我們？下一個到來的時間視窗裏，有沒有一條特別的時間線，使得事情會看起來更好呢？

COBRA – OK. I will explain my perspective. I have been directly involved in operations for the liberation of the planet for about 20 years quite actively. And for me near does not mean tomorrow or next week. So this is relative what somebody perceives as near. I would say from my own perspectives.We are near to the breakthrough, because most of the operations I have been involved with for many years have been completed and successfully completed. I would say the majority of the project has been brought to completion. The majority of the things that needed to take place behind the scenes have taken place. This is why I am saying that the breakthrough is near. I’m not saying it’s happening today, or I’m not saying it’s happening tomorrow. I am not saying it’s going to happen on January 1, 2016. That is the target date for the Eastern Alliance and their plans. It might or not be the target date for the Event.

COBRA：我會以我的視角來解釋一下。我一直相當積極地直接參與這個行星解放運動大概有20年的時間。對我來說，“很近”不是明天或者下個星期。對於人們所感覺到的很近是相對的。我只是從我的角度這麼說。我們很接近突破，因為這麼多年來我所參與的大部分行動都已經完成了，並且是成功地完成了。我會說絕大多數的計畫都已經完成。大多數需要在幕後發生的事情都已經發生了。這就是為何我一直在說突破很近了。我不是說它會在今天發生，或者明天就發生。我也不會說它會在 2016年1月1日發生。這是東盟的目標日期和他們的計畫。這可能是，也可能不是“事件”的目標日期。

Rob – OK, let’s see. Another question we have here is in regards to the clones. We talked a little bit about that before the interview. I found that quite interesting. I thought people would be interested in that. Can you talk about the cloning process? We have a soul entity that inhabits a body. What happens . . . say they go in and make 3 different clones. Are those clones put on ice and just waiting for a possibility when George Bush is killed, and then that soul is pushed into another clone body, or are there multiple bodies actually functioning, and if so, is it the same soul functioning those bodies?

Rob：好的，讓我們繼續看。這裏有一個關於克隆人的問題。在訪談之前我們有談論過一些。我發現那是非常有趣的事情，我想人們也會對此感興趣。你能否談談克隆過程？我們有一個靈魂寄居在一個物理身體裏，如果製造了3具不同的克隆體會發生什麼呢？這些克隆體是不是放在冰櫃裏，然後僅僅是等待一種可能性，當喬治.布希被殺死的時候，那麼那個靈魂會被推進到另一個克隆體，是這樣嗎？或者說，有多個物理身體實際上都在運作著嗎？如果是那樣的話，會是同一個靈魂控制著那些身體呢？

COBRA – Actually one soul, in the vast majority of cases. There are some exceptions, but extremely rare. In the vast majority of cases, inhabits one body. If we have this George Bush for example, if he gets killed, he will be captured by the Archons on the etheric plane. He will be transported to the Long Island facility on the etheric plane and then he will be put with strong magnetic fields and into the clone body that will be chosen for him. He would wake up in that place and then he will be transported back to his original location.

COBRA：實際上，絕大部分情況都是一個靈魂，也有一些是例外，但非常罕見。多數情況下是一個靈魂寄居一個身體。如果我們拿布希舉個例來說，如果他被人殺死了，他會在乙太層被執政官捕捉到。他會在乙太層面被送到長島的設施，然後使用強大的電磁場將靈魂推進到為他準備的克隆體中，他將在那裏醒過來，然後被運輸回原來的地方。


Rob – So at this time, when you see a being that’s George Bush, is it possible for a clone to be functioning and not have the soul of George Bush in it? If so, how is that being functioning, that clone?

Rob：那麼現在，當你看到那個叫喬治•布希的存有的時候，有沒有可能是一具克隆體在運作著呢？裏面並沒有喬治.布希的靈魂呢？如果真是那樣，那麼克隆體是如何運作呢？

COBRA – OK. There were some, what people call clone-bots, which are cloned robots which are not ensouled. Those entities have been cleared from the surface of the planet a long time ago. What we have besides the clones are lookalikes. They are beings that look similar to George Bush, for example, and they tend to appear in certain locations which are, from a security standpoint a risk for George Bush.

COBRA：有一些被人們稱之為克隆機器人的東西，它們是沒有靈魂的。那些實體在很久之前就被清理出行星地表了。除了克隆體外，我們還有長相相似的人(替身演員)。比如，有一些人長得很像喬治.布希，他們會傾向於出現在一些地方，從安全角度來看是對喬治.布希有危險的地方。


Rob – OK. An interesting thing I’d like you . . . I found it very fascinating. I talked to Fred and then, of course, I was reading Billy Meyers’ contact notes when I was 17, before anyone knew about him. I was very fascinated with the fact that the Pleiadians took Billy into one area, and if you could talk about this, and the ethic of some people have mentioned it?I guess benevolent races have a way of creating a type of being that is kind of a humanoid and yet has kind of a, I don’t know what we would call, a vegetable or animal type consciousness. They have some of their machinery in bases that function on things, and they, from an outside earth person, it would look like a slave, but, according to Billy Meyer, he went in and saw these beings and they kind of looked like zombies. They weren’t really sentient, but they actually were human bodies. They were able to perform certain functions. Can you talk a little bit about that technology and how that is deemed ethical by these light forces and what’s the situation with these these beings that are kind of clone like, I guess is it?

Rob：有一件有趣的事情，我想跟你講講，感覺非常令人著迷。我有給Fred講過，當然，當我17歲的時候，在比利•邁耶成名之前有看過他的接觸筆記。非常吸引的我的情節是，昴宿星人將比利.邁耶帶到了一個地方。如果你談論此事的時候，可能一些人的道德良心會被提及。我想，善良的外星人有方法製造出一種類人型的存有，這些存有（我不知道，我們會這麼去說）有一種類似植物或動物的意識。他們在基礎上有一些機械裝置，並用來完成一些工作，他們也會組成一個外在像人類的外表，並看起來像是一個奴隸，但根據比利.邁耶所說，他進入到那個地方後看見了這些存有，看起來像僵屍，他們是沒有真正覺知的，但他們確實是具有人類身體。他們能夠完成一些工作。你能否談談這項技術，它是如何被光明勢力視為道德的？關於這些像克隆人存有的情況是怎樣的呢？


COBRA – OK. This is a sad part of the genetic experimentation that was taking place in underground bases. The light forces did not do this. This was done more by the Cabal and this was mostly happening in military underground bases that were joined with Draco Reptilian space programs.

COBRA：這是發生于地下基地的基因實驗中的一段令人悲傷的故事。光明勢力是不會這麼去做。這更多是由陰謀集團所做，主要是發生在地下軍事基地裏，與天龍-蜥蜴人的太空計畫有關。


Rob – OK. I’m talking about when Billy Meyer was on one of the ships. The Pleiadians have a type of being, according to him, that they said they actually kind of create a being, but it’s not really human. Is that, I think he said, kind of a vegetable consciousness? They can be programmed.

COBRA – I cannot confirm that.

Rob：我所談論的是，當比利•邁耶在其中的一艘飛船上的時候。昴宿星人有那樣的一種存有。據他所說，他們實際上是創造出了那種存有，並不是真的人類。我想他說的是一種植物意識的存有，是這樣嗎？他們可以被編程。

COBRA：我無法確認這個資訊。


Rob – You can’t confirm that. I’ll try and get you the Billy Meir actual contact notes. I guess some things are going on there. I guess there’s a different thing. Could you talk about . . . a lot of people are having problem in they have questions about . . . Could you talk about mercy and compassion towards the Cabal and the people involved in this? I think the Chimera breakaway and Archons are slightly different levels of that. Can you talk about compassion and mercy towards this type of situation? You know there’s so much suffering and so many people that just . . . It seems at this point in time, you know, a strong feeling to lash out.

Rob：你無法確認。我會嘗試將比利.邁耶的真實接觸筆記給你看看。我猜有些事在發生著，那是一件不同的事。這裏有另一個問題。你能否說一下針對陰謀集團及其有關成員所展現出的仁慈和憐憫呢？關於此，我認為針對奇美拉的“脫離文明”組織和執政官會有稍許不同。你能否談一下針對這種情況的同情和憐憫呢？你知道，人類遭受了那麼多的苦難，有很多人....似乎在這個時刻，你知道會有一種強烈抨擊的情緒。


COBRA – OK. The compassion towards the Cabal has it’s place only after the Cabal is stopped. People are angry and they are angry for good reasons, and their anger needs to be channeled into stopping the Cabal. When the Cabal is stopped after they are arrested, I would not suggest to vent people’s frustration on the Cabal, because that will not solve anything. After they are arrested, they have a right for a fair trial. When their crimes are exposed based on their decisions, their future will be decided. If they would like to amend their past actions, they will be given an opportunity. If they are not willing to do that, they will go to the galactic central sun and their individual soul presences will be erased from this dimensional universe. They will cease to exist.

COBRA：好的，針對陰謀集團的同情，只會在他們被阻止之後才能談得上。人們很憤怒，他們的憤怒是有理由的。他們的憤怒需要通過一種管道轉化到阻止陰謀集團的行動上。當陰謀集團成員被逮捕之後就會被阻止，我不會建議人們將他們的挫折發洩在陰謀集團身上，因為這解決不了任何問題。當他們被逮捕後，他們有權獲得公平的審判。當他們的罪行大白於天下的時候，他們的未來就會被決定。如果他們想要修正他們過去的行為，他們將會獲得機會。如果他們不願意這麼去做，就會被送到銀河中央太陽，他們個體的靈魂臨在將會從這個維度宇宙中被抹除，他們將不復存在。


Rob – OK, here’s a question someone had. A lot of people kind of go into this fear. Someone’s mentioning that Poland’s been in the middle of a lot of stress because it borders east and west. Someone is wondering if there’s any tension going on between, I guess European NATO forces and Russia. They feel like Poland . . . people are wondering if they should emigrate from Poland. Is there any potential for anything popping off there?

COBRA – Again this is fear mongering. The escalation between, the large scale escalation between NATO forces and Russia is extremely unlikely.

Rob：這裏有人問到了一個問題，許多人感到了恐懼。有人提及到，波蘭一直處於許多緊張局勢的中間位置，因為它接壤東西邊界。有人想知道，是否北約與俄羅斯之間會有緊張情況發生，是否要搬出波蘭，是否有任何潛在的事情突然發生呢？

COBRA：再強調一下，這是在宣揚恐懼。在北約和俄羅斯之間的大規模緊張局勢升級是極其不可能的。


Rob – OK. Here’s an interesting one. What is transsexualism? How will it look like possibilities of body corrections after the event? What’s going to happen with some people who have done sex changes?

COBRA – OK. At a certain phase after the event, and closer to the first contact, people will be able to experience transmigration from their current body into a body of the opposite polarity. So if somebody is a man and would like to experience life from the perspective as a woman, he will be able to be teleported into a female body at that time. Through some of those experiences, some people will be clear their sexual identities and heal some of their traumas from the past.

Rob：這裏有一個有趣的問題。變性是什麼？在“事件”之後，身體糾正的可能性會是如何，對那些想要變性的人來說會是怎樣呢？

COBRA：在“事件”之後的某個特定階段，在非常靠近第一次接觸的時候，人們將能體驗到從現在的身體轉移到一個極性相反（性別相反）的身體之中。因此，如果有人是男人，想要體驗作為女人的生活的話，他那時就能轉移到一個女性的身體裏。通過那樣一些體驗，一些人將能清理他們的性別認同問題，並療愈他們過往的一些精神創傷。


Rob – Wow. Very interesting. So there is going to be the possibility for people to change bodies. Will this be possible for people with extreme illnesses, or is this a certain? I mean, I don’t know . . . it kind of seems like we have to take responsibility for the body we’re in and even though we’ve been attacked we can get a new body. What’s the story? Is there a karma where you can’t just destroy a body through bad actions and get a new one?

COBRA – OK. There is no karma as is described in the Archon paradigm. If somebody will need a new body that will be provided based on priority. People with terminal illnesses, with chronic pain, will be healed. If the body can not be healed, they will be able to shift into a different body as we go toward the first contact and after the first contact. Like most advance races, they can choose and change their bodies according to their own inner guidance.

Rob：很有趣。這麼說人們是有可能改變身體。對於那些有重大疾病的人來說是可能的嗎，或者說是一定的嗎？我意思是，似乎我們應該對自己所寄居的身體負責，即使我們受到了攻擊，我們也可能會得到一副新的身體。但情況會是如何呢？會不會存在一種業力，你們不能通過負面行為來破壞自己的身體，從而獲得一個嶄新的身體呢？

COBRA：這裏並沒有執政官在范式中所描述的那些業力。如果有人需要一個新的身體的話，會根據優先順序次序來提供給他。那些身患晚期絕症，或帶有慢性病痛的人會得到治療。隨著我們朝向第一次接觸以及第一次接觸之後，如果身體無法治好，他們將可能轉移到一具不同的身體。就像大多數高級種族那樣，他們可以根據其內在指引來選擇並改變自身的身體。


Rob – Wow, that’s very interesting. The man named Bob Reynaude – a famous contactee of Gabriel Green who works with the people of the Korrendor and has actually fallen in love with a woman from there and actually goes there and inhabits a Korrendorian body where he will go after his passing here. He will live his life out on Korrendor. He’s one of those people you’re talking about. You mentioned a while back that after the Congo invasion of 1996, the Archons spent a period from 1996 – 1999 on a mass implant program. Was that through the Greys? Were they physical implants? Was it the nano implants? Could you talk a little bit about that?

Rob：那非常有趣。這裏有一個人名叫Bob Reynaude,是Gabriel Green的一位著名的接觸者，他與Korrendor人一道工作，並實際上在那裏與一位女性墜入了愛河，並去到那裏，寄居在一個Korrendor人的身體之中，他將尋找他在那裏的過去。他將在Korrendor過完他的一生。他就是其中一位你所談到的人物。你曾經說過，在1996年剛果入侵之後，執政官從1996年到1999年間進行了大規模的植入計畫。這個計畫是通過灰人來執行的嗎？那些是物理性的植入物嗎？還是納米植入物呢？你能否說一下呢？

COBRA – OK. First, there was massive implantation through plasma etheric scalar technology. Second, there was a lot of implants being distributed globally through vaccinations programs with biochips. There was also a certain number of MILAB type of experiences where they were taken to underground bases and implanted physically after trauma based mind programming sessions.

COBRA：好的，首先，大規模植入是通過等離子乙太標量技術進行的。其次，有很多植入物是通過帶有生物晶片的疫苗接種而進行全球性散佈的。也有一定數量來自軍方實驗，人們會被帶到地下基地，然後在基於精神創傷的心智編程之後進行物理性植入。


Rob – OK. I’ve got. . We’re getting near the end here. We’ve got a couple more questions we’re going to get through. Can you talk about if there is more than one Cintamanni stone?

Rob：好的，我明白了。我們的節目時間快到了。還有幾個問題要問一下。你能否談一下，是否有不只一塊的如意寶珠呢？

COBRA – Actually, Cintamanni stone . . . here are two aspects of the stone. One aspect of the stone is the stone that fell from Sirius. There are many fragments of that stone. For the large part of human history, that stone was in the hands of the Agarthan network. Small fragments were released to humanity or more precisely to certain, most powerful human individuals who were working for the light forces. And very recently the light forces have started to release that stone massively. I will write a blog post about it quite soon.

COBRA：實際上，這塊石頭有兩個方面。一個方面是，這個石頭是來自於天狼星的隕石。那塊石頭有很多碎片。在人類大部分的歷史時間裏，那塊石頭一直在阿加森網路的手中。小塊的碎片被給予了人類，或者更準確地說，是給予那些為光明勢力工作的最強有力的個體。最近，光明勢力已經開始大批地將石頭分發出去。我會很快寫一篇有關文章。


Rob – Is it possible for the average humanity to get Cintamanni stones?

COBRA – Yes, we will make that happen.

Rob – Thank you. Here’s a question. I guess it has to do . . . this is the one I was interested in. One is how did Jesus bring back Lazarus from the dead? And I have a follow-up question to that.

COBRA – There was technology involved. There was some advanced ET technology involved in his so-called miracles.

Rob：有可能普通人就能獲得如意寶珠嗎？

COBRA：是的，我們會那麼去做。

Rob：謝謝。這裏有一個問題，我也感興趣。耶穌是如何讓Lazarus(注：聖經中的麻風乞丐)複生？這裏還有一個跟進的問題。

COBRA：有一些先進的外星科技被牽涉進他所謂的奇跡之中。

Rob – Right, so he had a mission here to perform certain things and they basically said sorry, you know what the Pleiadians call a creator son is here and we’re going to take over the Archon network and they just did it, right?

COBRA – It was more Sirians and not so much the Pleiadians.

Rob：好的，耶穌在地球有一個使命，需要完成一些事情，他們基本上說到難過的事情。你知道，昴宿星人所稱之的一位造物者之子就在這裏，我們將拿下執政官網路，於是他們就這麼做了，是嗎？

COBRA：更多是天狼星人說的，而不是昴宿星人。

Rob – OK. Can you talk a little bit . . . a lot of question . . . we have these past life regressions. People want to know what their past lives are and stuff like that and what their previous incarnations were? It seems as though Delores Cannon . . . she’s passed over, but she seemed to be pretty accurate. It seems that some hypnotism is a way to get ahold of that. Do you know any other way people can contact their past life reincarnations other than the Golden Disc of the Sun down in Peru Temple of The Seven Rays?

COBRA – The most easiest and most sure way to remember past incarnations is to strengthen your connection with your soul, and when the time is right the soul memory will come into your physical brain and you will remember.

Rob：這裏還有一些問題，我們都有過去的生世輪回。人們想知道自己前世生活會是怎樣的，前世是什麼樣的身份。似乎好像，朵洛絲.侃南的量子催眠能幫助人們找到前世，這位老太太已經過世了，但她的方法似乎非常準確。好像一些催眠術會是一種方式可以幫助回憶前世。除了秘魯那個七光神廟裏的太陽金圓盤之外，你還知不知道其他的方法，能讓人們回憶起前世呢？

COBRA：最容易和最確定能回憶前世的方法是，加強與你的靈魂進行連接，當時機到來之時，靈魂記憶就會進入到你的物理頭腦，你將會記得。


Rob – OK. I’m wondering about if you could describe to people . . . a lot of people have been talking about when you talked about the death experience and going over. A lot of people were concerned for their family members and themselves, especially. You mentioned that the etheric plane isn’t the best place to be right now when you pass over.
What should people do if they’re . . . if it’s possible at the time of death . . . what is the situation? Will someone greet them? Is that a false Archon that’s going to manipulate them? A family member’s going to say, ‘Yes, come into the light.” and you go into the Archon reincarnation network.

Rob：明白，我想知道的是，你是否能向人們描述一下，當你談到死亡體驗以及之後的事情的時候，很多人都一直在談論。人們尤其很關心他們的家人及自己。你提到過，現在的乙太層並不是去世之後最好待的地方。如果人們死亡之後，他們會做什麼呢？情況會是怎樣的呢？有沒有人會歡迎死者呢？有沒有一位假執政官來操縱他們呢？比如一位(去世的)親人會跟你說：“是的，來到光這邊。”然後你就進入到了執政官的轉世網路之中？

COBRA – Actually after you go through the tunnel into the light you will meet your loved ones. It is not a trick. It’s a real situation. There is more and a lighter presence on the etheric and the higher planes. You are still inside of the incarnation cycle. You are not able to be fully free to go and exit the solar system and go to Sirius or Pleiades. The situation is not as bad as it was, but if you’re leaving the incarnation in the usual fashion, you are old and dying. You are most likely in a quite balanced state of mind. But if you do commit suicide, you are in an excited state then the transition is not so easy simply because your emotions and your energy field is in an excited state and then the transition is not so easy and then it’s easier for the Archons to press your buttons – guilt, for example, and trap you more.

COBRA：實際上，在你穿過隧道進入到光中的時候，你將會遇見到你所愛的人，這不是一個騙局，是真實的情況。在乙太層或更高層面，有更多更輕的臨在。你仍然處於轉世的週期裏。你無法完全自由地離開太陽系，去到天狼星系或者昴宿星系。那裏的狀況並不像以前那麼差了，但如果你是以通常的方式離開肉身，比如年老死亡，你多數都處於一個平衡的心境狀態。但如果你是自殺的，你就處於一種激動狀態，這時過渡就不那麼容易，簡單地說，是因為你的情緒和能量場正處於一種激發狀態中，執政官能更容易戳中你的弱點，比如內疚，進而騙你進圈套。


Rob – OK. Two more questions here. We got quite a few questions on this. I know you talked a little bit about it in your posts. Can you tell us the story behind the AIIB and what is the role of the AIIB in the financial reset at the Event.

Rob：好的，這裏還有兩個問題。關於此，我們收到過不少提問，我知道你在博客裏也談過一些。你能否說一下亞洲基礎設施投資銀行幕後的故事呢？它在“事件”發生之時的金融重置中扮演什麼角色呢？

COBRA – It is simply a vehicle of the distribution of the funds that will be released after the Event for infrastructure projects. Right now they are just creating, I would call it, a bureaucratic institution that needs to be established for a current level of consciousness. Because when the event happens, those funds need to be channeled through certain infrastructure bureaucratic institutions. And AAIB is the perfect vehicle for that.

COBRA：簡單地說，那只是一個基金分發的工具，基金將會在“事件”之後為基礎設施項目分發資金。現在他們只是在建立一個官僚機構，是需要為當前的(人類)意識水準而建立。因為當“事件”發生的時候，那些資金需要通過一些基礎官僚機構進行輸送分發。所以，它是完美的媒介。


Rob – OK, and here’s another question. People want to know what is the black knight satellite? Alex Collier said it’s a giant highway patrol from the Superluminals to monitor astral pathways and life in various systems. Would you concur with that?

Rob：這裏有另外一個問題。人們想知道黑騎士衛星是什麼？Alex Collier說這是一個巨大的高速公路巡警，來自于超光速，並監控星光層通路以及各星系的生命。你同不同意呢？

COBRA – I would not agree. Actually the existence of the black knight satellite is a hypothesis. It is not based on fact. It is based on some old NASA photos, which actually show part of the NASA program. This does not mean that there are no artificial satellites that are quite old. Yes, they are, but they are much deeper undercover and nothing is known about them outside the secret space program – the deep secret space program. Anybody else has no idea about them.

COBRA：我不會同意。實際上，黑騎士衛星的存在只是一種假設，並沒有事實根據。它是基於一些舊的 NASA照片，其實際上是顯示出NASA的部分專案。但這並不意味著，沒有非常古老的人造衛星。是的，有這種衛星，但它們藏得很深，在秘密太空計畫以外，沒有人知道關於它們的任何資訊。我說的是深層的秘密太空計畫，沒有人會瞭解到它們。


Rob – There were some large explosions heard by some people recently underground, and there’s also an earthquake in California – in the Burbank area – a very small one. A lot of people are wondering . . . are we looking at some. . . is it still possible we may be having some more earthquake activity? This is obviously controlled by the light forces to release tension along the acupuncture ley line points of the earth for healing. Can we get any? Will we get any information if there’s to be some major earthquake activity, and will any of this be in Yellowstone?

Rob：最近，有人聽到地底下傳來了巨大的爆炸，並且在加利福尼亞州發生了一次地震，是在伯班克地區，一個很小的地方。很多人想知道的是，有沒有可能會有更多的地震活動？很明顯，這些是被光明勢力所控制的，並沿著地球的地脈穴位來釋放張力以進行療愈，你有得到任何資訊嗎？我們是否可以獲得一些資訊，是否會遭遇到一些大的地震活動呢，比如黃石公園？

COBRA – OK. The light forces are monitoring the situation in Yellowstone and are actually buffering it for quite some time. They might not be able to completely guide the situation without any earthquakes or interruptions in that area. I can not guarantee that, but most likely, they will not be very dramatic.

COBRA：光明勢力一直在監控著黃石公園的情況，實際上為它減震緩衝有好一段時間。他們不可能在沒有地震或中斷的情況下，完全控制住那裏，我無法保證。但最可能的情況是，地震不會非常劇烈。


Rob – OK. So another place that you mentioned I think was also in Chile down in South America. There will be a little more earthquake activity. Is that correct?

COBRA – It’s possible.

Rob：因此，你也提到了另一個地方，也是在南美的智利，那裏會有更多一點的地震活動，對嗎？

COBRA：有這個可能。

Rob – OK. Well ladies and gentlemen, I know we had a lot of stuff going on here and we couldn’t get to a lot of questions you had today. We had a lot of stuff to go through. It’s been very informative. Again, thank you, Cobra, for joining us here today and Victory to the Light.

COBRA – OK. Thank everybody for listening. And I will say again, the breakthrough is near. It does not mean to happen tomorrow, but I need to repeat that to anchor and ground that energy into the conscious of human beings. We are close to the breakthrough phase. We have been working for this many, many lifetimes, and in this lifetime especially, and we are getting closer.

Rob：各位，我知道在這裏我們還有很多問題，但我們今天沒有時間回答了。我們已經談到了很多話題，有非常多的資訊。再一次感謝柯博拉來到我們的節目。

COBRA：謝謝大家收聽。我再說一次，突破很近了，這不表示明天就會發生，但我需要重申一次，要把那股能量錨定並紮根在人類的意識之中。我們很接近突破的階段。我們已經有很多很多世都在為此而努力，特別是在這一世，我們更接近了。

Rob – Thank you, Cobra, for that bit of information. I would 
encourage you all to have the faith in the positive forces of light and the power of your own soul. Connect to that as much as possible through your pure intelligence of your mind and your own I AM presence and that will help you achieve the Victory of the Light. Thank you for coming towww.thepromiserevealed.com Don’t forget Mr. Truthseeker, my events, the webinar coming up.

Rob：謝謝你，柯博拉，為我們帶來了資訊。我鼓勵大家要對光明勢力以及你們自己的靈魂充滿信念。通過你們純粹的心智理解，以及你們自己的“我是”臨在來盡可能地與你們的靈魂進行連接，那將會幫助你們實現光的勝利。

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