【柯博拉Cobra】2012年7月3日與亞歷山德拉米多爾訪談 - 下半部分
Transcription of Interview With Cobra and Alexandra Meadors from July 3, 2012
2012年7月3日 眼鏡蛇訪談
July 5, 2012
2012年7月5日貼出
第二部份
內容提要：
*極移
*繼續每周一次的大規模集體冥想。之前三次非常成功，之後不是那麼成功
*Bill wood 時間線收斂
*揚升大師和外星存有的區別
*四維還是五維
*通過疫苗植入人體的微芯片
*地球進入海王星軌道？行星軌道變化？
*數字144,000
*克隆
*地下基地
正文：
A: OK. As far as a pole shift, which we’ve read has to take place, are you agreeing that that is also a reflection of the pole shift within our brain circuitry?
A：OK。就我們讀到已經發生的極移，你同意這種說法嗎，極移也是我們大腦電路的一種反射？
C: Actually there are two aspects to this. The first one is the magnetic pole shift which is happening. Magnetic reversal is happening. The other one that people are thinking the most about is the physical axis pole shift. About the second one, I am not allowed to give out any information at this point. But nothing drastic will happen this year.
C：實際上對於這一點有兩個方面。第一個是磁極轉移現在正在發生。磁反轉正在發生。另一個是人們考慮最多的是物理軸極移。關於第二點，在這個時間點，我現在不被允許提供任何信息。但是今年不會發生什麼猛烈的變化。
A: Thank you for that message. I hope everybody hears that.
A： 謝謝你提供信息。我希望每個人都都能聽到。
C: Oh yeah.
C：哦，對。
A: For those who decide to stay with the planet, and make the conscious choice that they do want to ascend, wouldn’t it be also essential and beneficial – because you have called on the world meditation days and that sort of thing – but also wouldn’t it be just as simple for each of us to come up with a decree and we all say this decree each morning when we get up? For those that kind of hesitate to meditate, they don’t think they have the time or they don’t think they can connect, or that sort of thing. What do you think about that idea?
A：對那些決定與這個行星（地球）待在一塊的人，以及那些做了有意識的選擇確實想要揚升的人，會不會也是必要的和有益的呢——因為你召集世界冥想日以及類似的事情——但是會不會也是對於我們每個人來說就是簡簡單單的頒布了一個命令，然後每天早上起來的時候都知道這個法令了呢？對於那些還在猶豫要不要去做冥想的人，他們認為他們沒有時間，或者他們認為他們（與高我、源頭）連接不上，或者類似的事情。你對這個想法怎麼想的呢？
C: Well right at this moment where we are not liberated, I would say the main focus is to continue with weekly mass meditations, at least once a week. Some will want to do it more, they can do it more. But I would say each Sunday to reach the critical mass. Because what is happening is we had 3 strong meditations in May and June. We had those three portals and they were very successful. A lot of those non-physical entities have been removed. But after that, this whole movement has not been as successful, not as many people are doing those weekly meditations and therefore there is not much progress to clear those non-physical Archons from the astral plane. So I would encourage everybody to join this weekly effort because we need to continue until everything is cleared out. And also many people do not understand that those meditations support a lot. The positive Light Movement on the physical plane and they support the whole mass arrest scenario, they support the whole movement of the light forces because mind is always over matter. If a critical mass of human beings continue visualizing and manifesting this change, this change will happen sooner. If everyone started waiting then it doesn’t happen. I would encourage everyone to join those weekly meditations because then it will happen sooner. It will happen in a more…in an easier way with less distractions and less violence and less conflict.
C：在此刻我們還沒有解放的時候，我想說主要的焦點還是繼續集中在每周的大規模冥想上，至少每周一次。一些人會想要做更多的冥想，他們可以這樣做。但是我想說，每個周日要達到臨界數量。因為正在發生的事情是，我們在5月和6月進行了3次很強大的冥想。我們已經有了那三個門戶，並且他們的成功。許多非物質精英已經被移除了。但是在那之後，整個運動就不是像許多人每周做冥想時那麼成功了，因此在從星光層面清理那些非物質執政官的方面沒有取得許多進步。所以我鼓勵每個人參加每周的冥想，因為我們需要繼續努知道每個東西都被清理掉。並且，許多人不理解那些冥想非常有幫助。正面的光的運動在物理層面並且他們支持大逮捕方案，他們支持整個光的力量的運動，因為思想總是超越物質的。如果臨界數量的人類存有繼續視覺化和顯化這一變化，這一變化將會很快發生。如果每個人開始等待，那麼它不會發生。我鼓勵每個人參加這個每周冥想，因為那樣的話，它就會很快發生。它將會以一個更……更容易的方式發生，並伴隨著更少的分散注意力、更少的暴力和更少的衝突。
A: Well that is the ultimate because we know it has to change in order to bring about the new. You can’t build off of a corrupt to the core system.
A：這是最終目標，因為我們都知道為了產生一個新的（世界）它不得不改變。你不可能在一個都腐爛到核心的系統上再繼續建設了。
C: Exactly, first it has to go. We can’t dream about ascension and about mass landing before this is done. This needs to be done first so we can start creating anew. We cannot do this in the old system, inside the matrix. It is not possible. We have to liberate first.
C：完全正確，首先，它不得不離開。直到這一步完成之後我們才能夢想著揚升和（飛船）大規模著陸。這個需要首先被完成，這樣我們才能開始建設一個新的。我們不能在舊系統裡、在矩陣裡開始建這個。它不太可能。首先，我們不得不解放。
A: Wow! Well I know we are all doing our best. So you have probably heard about Bill Woods and I was curious what your feeling was on the December 21st time frame, that that will be truly a point in time where all timelines collapse and become one. Do you agree with that?
A：噢！我知道我們正在盡最大努力。那麼，也許你聽說過Bill Wood，我很好奇你對12月21日這個時間范圍有什麼感想，那真是一個所有的時間線塌縮成一個時間線的時間點嗎？你同意那種說法嗎？
（譯注：bill wood前海豹突擊隊員，進行過時間旅行，談到時間線收斂。
http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/8Z3VP1H72ig/
http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/iEYwmXLknas/）
C: Actually this is symbolic turning point of this whole thing. It is a convergence point. I will not say that all timelines will converge because you can always have freewill. You can always create a change. So this free will will stay. This will not be erased. It is simply that consciousness will be more unified so that timelines will be more in harmony with the purpose which was ever present. The purpose was always here but human beings had their freewill diversified in various ways. So this is the reason why there are so many timelines. I am actually involved in a special project of healing those timelines from the past with a certain advanced technology because if we want to move into the new future we have to heal the past.
C：實際上這是整個事情的標志性轉折點。它是一個收斂點。我不會說所有的時間線都會收斂，因為你們一直都有自由意志。你們總是能夠創造變化。所以自由意志將會保留，自由意志不會被抹除。意識的更加統一會非常容易以至於時間線將會與現在所呈現出來的目標（揚升）更加和諧。目標一直在那，但是人類存有有他們自己的自由意志以各種方式偏離目標。所以，這是為什麼會有這麼多的時間線。實際上，我參與了一個特殊的項目，這個項目是用先進技術從過去治癒那些時間線，因為如果我們想要進入新的未來，我們必須要療癒過去。
A: Ok, so again it’s kind of like a karmic thing?
A：ok，這也是某種類似業力（karmic）的東西？
C: I would not say karmic. I would say it’s the law of Cause and Effect. The things that happened on this planet during history have consequences. So for example, there was an invasion of Archons 5000 years ago, but nobody remembers that. But everyone has consequences of this in their own energy field, in their own subconscious memory, in their own behavior patterns. No one is even aware of why they behave like they do. But when we clear the timelines of those events, people can heal easily, people can make better decisions, people can suddenly find more strength and more power to care for this liberation.
C：我不會說業力。我會說它是因果法則（law of Cause and Effect），在這個星球歷史中所發生的事情都有後果。舉個例子，5000年前，執政官入侵（地球），但是沒有人記得。但是每一個人都在他們自己的能量場、在他們自己的潛意識記憶、在他們自己的行為方式上受到影響。甚至沒有人意識到為什麼他們的行為是像（現在）這樣。但是，當我們清理了時間線上的那些事件，人們可以很容易的療癒，人們可以做出更好的決定，人們會突然發現（自己）更有力量和能力去全心這個解放（運動）。
A: That makes sense. So basically we are healing the cellular memories on a mass consciousness level. That is way cool! So this is a question that has always been in the back of my mind. You know of the Ascended Masters like Saint Germain, etc. Yes. How would you describe the difference between them and these very High ET’s or Galactic Beings that are going to be coming forth?
A：有道理。所以，主要地我們正在集體意識層面治癒細胞記憶。這是一個很酷的方式！這是我思維裡面一直存在的一個問題。你知道揚升大師嗎？像聖哲曼等等。(C：Yes)。你怎麼形容他們（揚升大師）和這些非常高級別的外星存有或者即將出現的銀河聯邦存有之間的區別呢？
C: Yes. The Ascended Masters have gone through what you would term Ascension. Ascension means complete liberation. It means complete enlightenment. The Ascended Masters are Beings who have gone beyond any attachment to the physical plane, to the emotions to the mind. They are beyond that. Therefore, I would say their consciousness is not subjected to the laws of entropy any longer. They are beyond all conflict. The positive ET races have not gotten to that point yet. They are close but they are not there yet. They have completely harmonized their intent with the Will of The One. I would say they are pure love and light. But they still have their physical bodies. They still have their emotions. They still have their minds. They still incarnate on the physical plane. They don’t perceive it as an illusion. They are still to a certain extent subjected to the laws of gravity.
C：是的。揚升大師們貫穿著你們所謂的揚升的整個過程。揚升意味著完全解放。它意味著完全開悟。揚升大師是一些已經超越了依附於任何實體平面、依附於任何情緒、依附於思維的存有。他們超越了那些。因此，我會說他們的意識不再受到熵定律（的限制）。他們超越了所有衝突。正面的外星種族還沒有達到那樣的程度。他們很接近但是他們還沒達到。他們已經完全使他們的目標與“一”的意願（Will of the One）相一致。我會說，他們是純粹的愛和光。但是，他們仍然有物理身體。他們仍然有感情。他們仍然有思維。他們仍然到實體層面投生。他們認為這（實體層面）不是一個幻覺。他們仍然某種程度上承受著重力定律。
A: Thank you so much for that. That really clarifies it for me.
A：非常感謝你的回答。這些回答非常清楚。
A: Now I have also noticed that there is a lot of conversation as of late about the 4th dimensional level and not the 5th. I was wondering what you thought about that. We are in the lower realms of the 4th dimension supposedly? Do you agree?
A：現在，我注意到最近有很多會話關於第四維度而不是第五維度。我想知道你對此有什麼想法。我們應該在第四維度的較低領域？你同意嗎？
C: The 4th dimensional is what you will term the astral plane. It is a consciousness which has gone beyond the limits of the physical world. It is a consciousness which is aware that there is more to this than just a physical object. It is aware of the images but it is still subject to the illusion. Because the astral plane as I said before is a plane of illusion. It is a plane of our hopes, aspirations, fears. There are emotional states. The 4th dimension is the level of consciousness where we are still to a great extent subject to those states.
C：第四維度是用你們的術語就是星光層（astral plane）.它是超過了物理世界限制的意識（層次）。它是一種知到除了實際物體之外還有更多的（存在）的意識（層次）。它是知道圖像但是仍然受到幻想影響的（意識層次）。就像我說的，星光層是一個幻象的層面。它是一個充滿我們的希望、願望和恐懼的層面。有情緒狀態。第四維度是一個我們仍然在很大程度上受這些狀態影響的一個意識層次。
A: OK. So let me ask you, do you believe that we are at the 51% awakened state as a planetary group?
A：OK。那我問問你，你認為我們作為一個星球上的群體已經達到51%覺醒的狀態了嗎?
C: No of course not. When the critical mass for awakened population is much less than 51%. When the critical mass happens, there will be a break through on the planet.
C：沒有，當然沒有。當覺醒的人口的臨界數量達到遠小於51%的（某個數量的）時候，當達到那樣一個臨界數量的時候，星球上就會有一個突破。
A: Because that’s actually has been flying around the internet as of late.
A：因為這種說法近來已經在網上瘋傳了。
C:Oh yes. There are many ideas flying around the internet. Many of them are not aligned with the truth.
C：哦，是的。有許多說法在網絡上傳播。許多說法跟事實不一致。
A: OK. Now what is your feeling about the fact that there have been rumors that each and everyone of us have been chipped over the course of all of our lifetimes? Do you agree with that?
A：OK。現在有謠傳說我們每個人都被裝上了芯片控制我們整個一生的課程，你對這種說法感想如何？你同意嗎？
C: Can you explain it a little more?
C：你可以再多解釋一點嗎？
A: You know where we have been microchipped by The Dark.
A：你知道我們已經被黑暗勢力裝上了微芯片。
C: Yes.
C：Yes
A: Do you agree that we are all still carrying those chips?
A：我們仍然帶著那些芯片，你同意這種說法嗎？
C: Ok, the microchipping program was active since WWII. It was carried out through the vaccination program created by the World Health Organization. Those microchips have been removed completely a few years ago. So they are gone.
C：OK，那些微芯片程序從第二次世界大戰的時候就激活了。它是通過由世界衛生組織創建的疫苗接種程序實施的。那些微芯片已經在幾年前就完全移除了。所以他們已經沒了。
A: Awesome! Wow…OMG.
A：真了不起！哇哦…我的神.
C: This is one of the reasons why people are beginning to awaken because those microchips were really strong in the last 15 years. After they were gone, we had an explosion of awareness happening in the last years or so. This is one of the reasons.
C：這是一個為什麼人們開始覺醒的原因，因為那些微芯片在過去15年裡非常的強大。在他們沒了之後，在過去幾年左右發生了覺醒的大爆發。這是原因之一。
A: That is fantastic! So, I had also read that one of the other reasons that we’ve even gotten in this predicament in the first place, many many moons ago, many planets sent their laggard frequency type beings to this planet.
A：太迷人了！我也讀到了我們最初陷入如此窘境的一個其他原因，很多個月以前，許多星球派來他們的落後頻率類型的存有到這個星球上。
C: This happened a long long time ago. Not a few months ago. I would say the timeframe of 10 to 15 years ago. All those souls which were really the most undeveloped, the most mutated beings, many of them came to this planet with the last Archon invasion timeframe between I would say 1996 and 2003.
C：這是很久很久之前的事了。不是幾個月之前。我會說時間區間是10-15年前。那些靈魂確實是最不發達的，突變最多的存有，他們中的許多隨著上一次執政官入侵來到這個行星（地球），時間段是1996年和2003年。
A: Wow, that recent?
A：Wow，這麼近？
C: Oh yes, this was the last invasion that happened.
C：哦，是的，這是最後一次入侵發生的時候。
A: Part of the reason that these Positive galactic forces are coming forth, is it karmic?
A：這些正面的銀河力量出現的部分原因是因為業力嗎？
C: I would say that Beings of Light would like to help and would like to heal this last cancer cell as I would describe it. They just want the whole galactic organism to be healthy. It is a natural healing process which occurs through other galaxies.
C：我會說那些光之存有願意幫助，願意治療這個，就像我描述的，最後的癌細胞。他們只想讓整個銀河器官健康一點。這個是在其他星系都有發生的自然的療癒過程。
A: I am floored that it was that recent. What is your feeling about one of the news reports was that the Earth was swinging into the orbit of Uranus?
A：我被雷倒了，這些事情是這麼近。最近的新聞報導地球正搖晃著進入天王星的軌道，你對此有何感想?
C: Oh no, no of course not. As I said before you can read all kinds of nonsense over the internet. People have a little bit of rational mind and a little bit of intuition can have quite a good feeling about what is real and what is not.
C：哦，不，當然沒有。就像我之前說的，你們能夠在互聯網上讀到各種沒有荒謬的說法。人們只有一點點合理的思維以及一點點的知覺就可以對什麼是真的什麼不是真的有一個非常好的判斷。
A: Are you familiar with Nassim Haramein.
A：你對哈拉美茵（Nassim Haramein）熟悉嗎？
C: Yes.
C：yes
A: He is just fascinating to listen to. He is actually mentioning that the Earth will be taking the position of Venus, do you agree with that? and then Mars will take the position of Earth.
A：他聽起來非常迷人。他實際上提到地球將會取代金星的位置，你同意嗎？然後，火星將會取代地球的位置？
C: I wouldn’t agree with that. You see the planets will just stay in their own orbits. There will not change orbits or anything of that nature. The solar system on the outside will look quite much the same. I will say there will be some changes but those changes will be more on a subatomic scale. There will be some changes in the structure of subatomic particles. But the general orbit of the planets will just be kept the same.
C：我不同意這種說法。你知道星球只會待在他們自己的軌道上。將不會有軌道變化或者任何類似的事情。外面的太陽系看起來都一樣。是將會有一些變化，但是那些變化更多會是在亞原子層面上的變化。將會有一些在亞原子例子的結構上的變化。但是行星的大體軌道將會保持不變。
A: OK, because you know what I am talking about. He actually talks about the orbiting going in a horizontal fashion. We always see it like from this very flat plane like your taught in school.
A：OK，因為你了解我正說什麼呢。他實際上談到軌道運行將會變成垂直式的。我們一直從這個非常平的平面上看它，就像你在學校中學到的那樣。
C: Yes, yes.
C：是的，是的。
A: I thought that was very interesting.
A：我認為那非常有趣。
C: Well I will just say that the orbits will stay the same.
C：好吧，我只會說軌道將會保持不變。
A: Now, what is your perception of the meaning behind the 144,000 elect?
A：現在，你對144，000個被選出的人的背後意義有何說法？
C: This is the critical mass. There is a certain equation which determines the critical mass inside the human population. At this moment I would say that we are at 119,000 but because the human race is not 100% effective in their consciousness, the real critical mass, not just the symbolic one, is 144,000. This symbolic number was known in the mystery schools for the last 2500 years.
C：這是一個臨界數量。有某個公式可以確定人口內部的臨界數字。此時此刻，我會說這個臨界數字是119，000，但是人類種族在他們的意識中不是100%的起作用，真正的臨界質量不只是那個象征性的數字，144,000。這個象征性數字在過去2500年間在神秘學校裡眾所周知。
A: Do you feel that those 144,000 essentially step up to an Ascended Masters position and the Ascended Masters will step up into another different mission themselves?
A：你覺得那144,000人本質上會邁向揚升大師的位置，並且揚升大師會邁向另一個他們自己的不同任務嗎？
C: OK, I am not allowed to comment on this one because it is part of the ascension plan.
C：OK，我不被允許評論這件事，因為是揚升計劃的一部分。
A: What about cloning? Did you or did you not talk about cloning in another interview? I haven’t been able to keep track of everything.
A：克隆怎麼樣？你在另外一個訪談裡有談到或者沒談到克隆嗎？我沒辦法跟蹤每一件事。
C: A little bit, a little bit yes. I can explain all about this. Actually there was a lot of cloning. The Cabal had this technology, but this technology has been cleared by the Resistance Movement. The Cabal can not clone anybody in the last 5 years. So there are no clones of anybody present any longer.
C：一點點，是的，說了一點點。關於這個我可以解釋所有的事情。實際上有許多克隆。陰謀集團有這個技術，但是這個技術已經被抵抗運動清理掉了。陰謀集團在過去5年裡沒能再克隆任何人。所以現在不再有任何克隆人出現了。
A: So all clones are eradicated?
A：那麼所有的克隆體都根除了？
C: Yes.
C：Yes
A: So I know that was causing problems. I had met several White Knights personally and they said it was causing a great deal of havoc. This was back in the late ’90′s and early 2000′s.
A：我知道克隆引起許多問題。我個人見過幾個白色騎士（White Knights），他們說克隆引起了許多大破壞。這是90年代和2000年代的事情。
C: Oh yes, there was a problem at a certain point but it has been cleared completely.
C：哦，是的，在某種程度上有問題，但是它已經被完全清除掉了。
A: OK. Another prior interview of yours you were mentioning that many people of Planet X live underground and they have reinvigorated the Resistance Movement in the last 12-13 years?
A：OK。另外一個之前你的訪談裡，你提到許多X行星的人住在地下，他們在最近12-13年間復興了抵抗運動？
C: Yes, actually the Resistance Movement was quite weakened by the constant attack of the Cabal in the time period around ’96 to ’99, that time frame. And then the reinforcements came from Planet X and now they are very strong, very strong.
C：是的，實際上在96-99年這段時間裡，陰謀集團不斷的攻擊極大的削弱了抵抗運動。然後，來自x行星的增援部隊（來了），現在他們非常非常強大。
A; Are you allowed to talk about what exactly happened between ’96 and ’99? You have made reference to it several times now.
A：你可以說說在96-99年之間具體發生了什麼嗎? 你已經提到它很多次了？
C: Oh yes, there was a very strong war taking place underground, in underground tunnels. The Cabal was much stronger then. They had many beings infiltrated from other star systems. They had about 10 to 20 million of their representatives in their underground bases. All of this has been cleared in those underground battles.
C：哦，可以。在地下，在地下管道裡，發生了一場非常強烈的戰爭。那時陰謀集團實力更強一些，他們有很多從其他恆星系統滲透來的存有。他們在他們的地下基地裡大約有1千萬到2千萬他們的代表。在那些地下戰斗中，所有人都被清理掉了。
A: OK. So do you feel at this point in time that our situation with the underground bases is completely done? We don’t even have to worry about that?
A：OK。那麼你認為在現在這個時間點有關地下基地的情況完全搞定了？我們甚至不需要擔心它？
C: I would say yes, but there are some rare instances. For example, The Cabal still has under their control some uppermost levels of some of the military bases. They have no personnel there. They are no Reptilians there or anything of that nature. There is just a normal military base and nothing very strange or no advanced weapons. Nothing of that nature.
C：我會說yes, 但是又一些偶然情況。例如，陰謀集團仍然控制著一些軍事基地的最上層。沒有他們的人員在那。沒有爬虫族或者類似的任何東西在那。那僅僅是一個普通的軍事基地，沒有奇怪的事情、沒有高級武器，沒有類似的東西。
A: That is so interesting. Back in the early ’90′s I was working alongside the military. I remember so specifically they closed down a whole bunch of bases but when you would drive by you could see they were still operating.
A：非常有意思。回到90年代早期，我仍在軍隊旁邊工作。我記得特別清楚他們關閉了一大堆基地，但是你開車從旁邊經過的時候，你會看到他們仍然在運行。
C: They didn’t close them. They just went undercover. The bases themselves still existed and they were actually expanded. The more sinister ET forces were taking over those bases in the early ’90/s.
C：他們沒有關閉他們。他們只是轉入秘密運行，基地本身仍然存在，他們實際上在擴展。在90年代早期更陰險的外星勢力結果了那些基地。
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2012年7月3日 眼鏡蛇訪談
July 5, 2012
2012年7月5日貼出
第三部份
內容提要：
*羅斯柴爾德家族與耶穌會
*梵蒂岡
*德雷克的綠燈&大逮捕
*大規模登陸&個人接觸
*揚升的過程
*目前進展
A: That is what I thought. Thank you for that confirmation. Now you also said that the Zionist faction is subordinate to the Jesuit faction. Can you expound upon that a little bit?
A：正是我想要說的。謝謝你確認這些事情。你也說過猶太復國主義教派從屬於耶穌會派別，可以對於這一點再詳細解釋解釋嗎？
C: This is quite complex. I will explain. It is like a symbiont, the Rothschilds and the Jesuits. They both need each other and they both control each other. In some aspects the Jesuits are superior. In many aspects the Jesuits are superior to the Rothschilds but they also need them so there is a kind of dynamic equilibrium taking place between them. The Jesuits are very good in psychology and very good in controlling people. The Rothchilds are very good in creating money and using money as a control mechanism. So if they want to control the planet they need each other. But they also hate each other so they have to find a way to…they cooperate in a way that is quite destructive.
C：這非常復雜。我將會解釋一下。它就像一個共生體，有羅斯柴爾德家族和耶穌會。他們相互需要，他們也互相控制。在一些方面，耶穌會佔主導。在許多方面，耶穌會比羅斯柴爾德家族高級，但是他們也需要他們，所以在他們之間有一個動態的平衡。耶穌會非常善於心理學、善於控制人民。羅斯柴爾德家族善於賺錢並且使用金錢作為控制機制。所以如果他們想控制星球，他們相互需要。但是他們也互相憎恨，他們必須找到一種方式…他們以一種非常破壞性的方式合作。
A: Well it appears that The Vatican is under fire from all different angles. Is there anything new to add regarding what’s going on with the Vatican?
A：似乎梵蒂正遭受來自各個角度的攻擊（架在火上烤）。關於在梵蒂岡進行的事情有什麼可以補充的嗎？
C: Ok, I will say that what happens in public is less than 1% of what is really was happening in The Vatican. When the real ? comes up people will be shocked.
C：OK。我會說在公眾領域所發生的事情是在梵蒂岡真實發生的事情的1%還不到。當真相出現的時候，人們會被震驚。
A: That’s fantastic! Do you agree that the Pope was moved off the Vatican property?
A：真不可思議！羅馬教皇被從梵蒂岡資產（列表）裡拿開了，你同意這樣的說法嗎？
C: I would not say so.
C：我同意。
A: That has been flying around various news channels. Apparently there was somebody that was arrested and that was a big to do. Anyway, getting back on track. Is there any new news today as far as what is going on with the lapse of time from when we were all getting geared up to think that there might be mass arrests or a massive kind of eradication of these Dark Cabal members?
A：有很多來自新的信息渠道的信息流傳。似乎，有某人已經被逮捕了，逮了一個大個的。無論如何，回到正題。從我們都被上緊發條認為將會有一個大逮捕或者大規模的某種清除這些黑暗成員的行動以來（譯注：德雷克發布綠燈以來），隨著時間的流逝，有任何新的新聞嗎？
C: Ok I will see this will happen. This is not that it won’t happen but I did not receive any confirmation for the green Light yet. So I cannot give you any guarantees that anything will happen tomorrow. This is up to Drake and his contacts. I don’t have…my contacts are not so strong in the positive military group. There are more in the other places. Like in the economy and alphabet agencies. I don’t have direct connections with those people inside the positive military and the connections I have did not give any confirmation of the Green Light.
C：OK，我認為這將會發生。這不是那些根本不會發生的事情，但是我還沒有收到任何有關綠燈的確認。所以，我不能給你任何保証任何事情將會在明天發生。這取決於德雷克和他的聯系人。我沒有…在正面的軍隊組織中，我的聯系人不是那麼強大。在其他領域裡有更多的聯系人，像是經濟領域以及新政機構。我與正面軍隊的內部人員沒有直接聯系，對於綠燈我沒有給出任何確認。
A: Yeah, apparently that caused a lot of havoc.
A：是的，顯然引起了許多混亂。
C: I will say that when the Green Light is really issued, in a 24 hour time frame after that everybody will have no more doubt because when this really happens it will be everywhere.
C：當綠燈真正頒發的時候，在24小時之後，每個人都不會再有疑問，因為當這個確實發生的時候，它會在每個地方都發生。
A: And this isn’t something that is going to be widely known to people like you…isn’t it true that you are really ultimately waiting for a signal from Source itself?
A：那麼這不是一個像你這樣的人將會眾所周知的事情嗎…？你們正在最後等待來自源頭本身的信號，這是真的嗎？
C: Actually the ideal plan will be like there will be a signal from The Source coming through the Plaeidians, coming through the Resistance Movement, and then through the Resistance Movement upwards on the surface that would contact people of the Positive Military and then the Green Light would be issued. But here on the surface of the planet we have people with freewill that are not perfect. This is the ideal picture. How it will happen I don’t know. Because we have learned lately that dealing with the human population is not so easy. Even the Positive Military have their own issues and have their own conflict so it is not easy to guide those people. One of the Resistant Movement operatives that is inside the positive military gets intel to some people who contact Drake. This is the only thing I know about this. And the information I got is that the Positive Military is not a unified group. There are some factions, people who would like to do this and people who would like to do that. It is not completely harmonized.
C：實際上，理想的計劃將會是有一個來自源頭的信號通過昴宿星人傳達，通過抵抗運動傳達，然後通過抵抗運動來到地表聯系正面軍隊裡的人們，然後頒發綠燈。但是，在這在這顆行星的地表上，我們有的是擁有不完美自由意志的人們。這是理想的情景。我不知道它會怎麼發生，因為我們最近了解到，對待人類群體不是這麼容易。即使正面的軍隊也有他們自己的問題，有他們自己的衝突，所以它不是那麼容易引導人們。一個抵抗運動的操作人員，也是在正面的軍隊的內部人士，聯系到了聯系德雷克的人。這是我對此事唯一知道的事情。並且，我得到的信息是正面的軍隊不是一個統一的組織。有一些派別，一些人願意做這個，一些人願意做那個。不是完全地和諧。
A: And a lot of egos involved unfortunately.
A：很不幸，許多“小我”（ego）牽涉進來。
C: Exactly, also, yes. A lot of it everywhere. This is one of the reasons for so many delays on this planet. Actually the Resistance Movement had some problems with the White Dragon Society at the beginning of this year. There were some negotiations and soon it was found out that some people inside the White Dragon Society just would like to grab the money for themselves. I am not speaking of this group as a whole but there are certain individuals inside that group with that motivation.
C：確實，也是， 是的。每個地方都有許多。這也是這顆星球上有這麼多延遲的原因之一。實際上在年初的時候，抵抗運動也和白龍會之間也有一些問題。進行了一些談判，很快發現在白龍會內部的一些人僅僅想要為他們自己奪取更多的錢。我不是說這個組織整體上是這樣的，但是那個組織裡面有某些個人有那樣的動機。
A: Aren’t we really at a point though where we have made such strides, we have accomplished so much in eliminating the darkness on the planet. There’s really very little that they can get away with without The Light Being aware of their shenanigans.
A：盡管我們一直在踏步，（可是）我們在除去這顆星球上的黑暗勢力方面已經完成了許多工作，我們是否真的達到這樣一個情況了呢？光之存有沒有意識了他們的詭計，他們逃脫的希望非常渺茫。
C: That’s true. This is exactly the reason why it is so important to give the information out. Why am I disclosing classified information. It is because people need to know. Now’s the time we all need to make choices. I am given exact instructions of what to say and what not to say. And I am allowed to say much more than I was allowed to say even a few years ago.
C：確實是這樣。這也確實是公布信息非常重要的原因之一。為什麼我公開機密情報，因為人們需要知道。現在是我們都需要做選擇的時間了，關於什麼能說、什麼不能說，我被給予了准去的指令。即使在幾年前，那些我不被允許說遠遠多於我能夠說的。
A: Yes, oh yes. I definitely noticed that. I was blown away when I heard your interview. I was actually very excited because first of all it feels closer. Secondly, using your intuition, you know that there are things going on that have not gone down even a couple of years ago. Some monstrous amazing things. You would never even see the media report on some of the things they are reporting on.
A：是的，哦，是的。我當然注意到了。當我聽的採訪的時候我大吃一驚。我實際上非常興奮，因為首先我感覺（裡真實情況）更近了。其次，依靠你的直覺判斷，你知道有事情正在進行，即使幾年前這些事情還沒有被接受。一些極其令人驚訝的事情。你甚至絕不會看媒體正在報導的一些事情。
C: This is thanks mostly to the Occupy Movement. The Occupy Movement has done a very good job of awakening the average population of what is going on within the banking system. So this is a good basis for what we are doing now. It will all build up to a certain point where the break through will happen.
C：這多虧了佔領（華爾街）運動。佔領運動在使普通大眾覺醒方面干得非常出色，喚醒大家意識到在銀行系統內部在做著什麼。這是我們現在正在做的事情的良好基礎。它將會一直增進到某一個點，在那一點突破將會發生。
A: It goes to show you when we all align for a common cause, we are the power on this planet.
A：將會像你証明，當我們都為一個共同原因統一意見的時候，我們是這顆星球上的（強大）力量。
C: Yes.
C：yes
A: So you also mentioned that there would be selected individuals contacted by the P at the time of mass landings?
A：你也提到將會有挑選的個人在大規模登陸的時候與昴宿星人接觸？
C: They will be contacted before the mass landings, after The Event. The P’s will start the program of contacting certain individuals in certain groups and then those groups will go to the mass media and present evidence to the mass media. This will prepare humanity for the reality of extraterrestrial life because people will have physical proof. And then more and more of those people will become visible after the point where humanity is ready for the mass landings. Before the mass landings happen, there will be an official diplomatic contact between the representatives of the P race and representatives of the human race. This must happen before the mass landings. Then human bewings wil be able to vote. Do you want this to happen or not? It is a freewill decision.
C：他們將會在大規模登陸之前、在事件之後被接觸。昴宿星人將會開始接觸某些組織中某些個體的計劃，然後那些組織將會給大眾媒體呈現一些証據。這將會為外星生命存在的事實做好准備，因為人們需要實際的証據。然後，在人類准備好大規模登陸的時間點之後，越來越多的那些人（外星生命）將會變得可見。在大規模登陸發生之前，在人類種族代表和昴宿星人種族代表之間將會有官方的外交接觸。這一定要在大規模登陸之前發生。然後人類族將會可以投票。你是否希望（大規模登陸）發生？這是一個自由意志的決定。
A: That is what I was going to ask you. Because you had also said if humanity accepted these mass landings. That kind of made me nervous for those that are out there that are completely unaware.
A：這也是我將要問你的。因為你也說道，人類是否接受大規模登陸。這樣的事情使我對那些不了解情況或者完全不知道情況的人們非常緊張。
C: At that time, they will be aware because the mass media will be speaking about it. When the mass media will be free from the control of the Rothschilds, they will report things that are really happening. They will report about those ET’s, they will report about evidence. They will report about free energy. The devices will be reported on TV. You will be able to go buy one.
C：在那個時間，他們就會知道了，因為大眾媒體將會討論這件事。當當中媒體可以擺脫羅斯柴爾德家族的控制，他們將會報導真實發生的事情。他們將會報導有關那些外星人們，他們將會報導証據。他們將會報導自由能源。証據將會在電視上報導，你可以去買一個（電視）。
A: Now these selected individuals, are these people that are already in kind of high places , that can get the job done and get it moving?
A：現在這些選出的個人們，這些人已經在某種高位了嗎，使得他們能夠完成這份工作並且推動這個事情嗎？
C: People who are qualified I will not go into details. This is still classified. But after The Event I will be able to give more information and advice about this.
C：有關誰能夠勝任我將不會談及細節。這仍然在分類。但是在事件之後，關於這一點我將能夠給出更多的信息和建議。
A: Now the question about the ascension process, where you had mentioned and it has been stated that it is obviously a process. And everybody’s process is different. We process the stripping away of the emotional/mental bodies differently. Is there a drop dead time line to finish that ascension process?
A：現在的問題是關於揚升的過程，依據你所提到的和陳述的，它顯然是一個過程。並且，每一個人的過程不同。我們以不同方式處理除去情緒/思維體。有完成揚升過程的截止時間嗎？
C: I will not comment on this.
C：我不對此發表評論。
A: Sorry about that.
A：對不起
C: It’s OK. But you see. I will explain. There are Archons on the astral plane that would be happy to hear this information and begin blocking everybody even more. So I will not give them this information.
C：沒關系。但是你知道，我解釋一下。在星光層的執政官聽到這個信息會很開心，並且開始甚至更加變本加厲地阻止每個人。所以我不會給出這個信息。
A: OK, that makes sense. And you had also said that it takes The Cabal a billion dollars just to run things.
A：OK，那是情理之中。你也說了陰謀集團將會花費10億美元使事情運轉。
C: Even more.
C：甚至更多
A: Ahhhh, even more. OK. Are we aware of how they are being impacted financially with all of these lawsuits? I read the other day that money just disappeared out of a lot of their coffers electronically. Can you comment on that?
A：啊，甚至跟多？OK，我們知道他們正被所有這些案件財政上怎樣擠壓嗎?前兩天我讀到一些錢就那麼從他們的電子金庫中不見了，你能就此評論一下嗎？
C: Oh yes!. There was a very successful operation I think last week, in the beginning of last week to do a test run to see how the Resistance Movement can break into the system and play a little bit with their finances. It was a very successful operation. Nobody could track where the cyber attack came from. They had no idea. They were confused. The Cabal was confused. They had no idea where the money went. It was actually stolen from the accounts of the rich people who are part of the Cabal and from the banks.
C：哦，yes。我認為上周、上周早些時候，有一個非常成功的操作，做了一個測試看看抵抗運動怎麼突破進入系統並且在他們的財政系統上搞點小動作。這是一個非常成功的操作。沒有人能跟蹤到網絡攻擊來自哪裡。他們不知道。他們非常困惑。陰謀集團非常困惑。他們不知道錢去了哪裡，它實際上是從陰謀集團裡部分富人和銀行裡偷來的。
A: Wow, that is awesome. Cobra, that is awesome.,
A：哇，太贊了。眼鏡蛇，那陣了不起。
C: Yes, this is just a training exercise. When the real reset happens this will be much much much more widespread and actually take down the system. Because when the arrest happen the Cabal must be kept from all of their money.
C：yes，這只是一個培訓的聯系。當真正的“重啟”發生的時候，將會有非常非常非常廣泛並且實際地拿下那個系統。因為，當逮捕發生的時候，陰謀集團必須被與所有他們的錢隔離。
A: Now you also mentioned that one of their biggest concerns is the Stockholm Syndrome. Are there ways in which to get beyond that? Are we pretty much stuck with what we have and until the time that the mass landings occur there would be accessibility to the healing chambers?
A：你也提到一個最大的關注點在於斯德哥爾摩（瑞典首都）。有方式超越它嗎？我們會被迫接受我們現有的嗎？直到大規模登陸發生的時候，（我們）才可以進入治癒室(healing chamber)嗎？
C: Oh yes, there are ways to get beyond that. The critical time is before the arrests happen and not at the time of the mass landings. Because when we get back the mass media, human beings will begin to cooperate. They will be deprogrammed. The brain washing will be removed very quickly and very effectively. Because when every human being is being presented the real facts, they will quite quickly realize what is going on. When they will get the evidence, the proof. Not just the words, the proof, when they see the top leaders of The Cabal arrested and presented the evidence of their deeds of their actions, when they will see working free energy device, when they will see artifacts from Atlantis, things of that nature, human beings will begin to believe.
C：哦，yes, 有方式超越它。嚴格時間是在逮捕發生之前，並不是發生在大規模登陸的時候。因為當我們拿回大眾媒體的時候，人類存有將會開始合作。他們將會消除受毒化的思想。洗腦的內容將會被非常快速非常有效地去除。當真正的事實呈現在每一個人類存有的面前的時候，他們將會很快意識到在發生著什麼。當他們得到証據的時候，不僅僅是一些詞語，當他們看見陰謀集團的頂級領導人被逮捕的時候，呈現他們行動的契約的時候，當他們看見自由能源裝置工作的時候，當他們看見來自亞特蘭蒂斯的史前文物的時候，看見類似那樣的事情的時候，人類存有將會開始相信。
A: Yeah, they won’t be able to dispute it.
C：是的，他們將沒法質疑。
C: Exactly.
C：確實。
A: I do see it is unfortunate because I have seen a lot of the divide and conquer that the Dark have been orchestrating amongst the spiritual community. I just really hope that we can step back and maintain neutrality and look at this from an observer standpoint.
A：我確實認為它是不幸的，因為我看見黑暗勢力編排的在靈性社區之間的許多各個擊破的事情。我真地非常新網我們能夠退後一步並且保持中立，並且從一個旁觀者的角度看待事情。
C: Oh yes, it is very important at this point not to get involved in the drama that is being artificially enhanced by The Cabal.
C：哦，是的，在這個時間點，不要卷入由黑暗集團人為加強的喜劇，這一點非常重要。
A: Right, right. Once we do that we are right in their camp again.
A：對，對。一旦我們那樣做的話，我們又一次站在他們的陣營裡。
A: Well I think what I wanted to end with is any updates, or anything that you would like to talk about as far as the future that we have to see and look forward to? Anything along those lines?
A：就我們能夠看到的未來或者盼望的未來，你有任何更新或者要談論的事情嗎？我想以此來結束我們的採訪。在那些線上有什麼事情嗎？
C: I would just like to say don’t get so caught up with when this is going to happen. Because when you get actively involved in making it happen, you have no more time to think about this. Your so in the action, that it is happening to you everyday. You become part of this. I think this is my main message for everybody today.
C：我想說不要被到底什麼時候發生（這樣的問題）給糾纏住。因為當你主動卷入其中使它發生的時候，你將沒有時間考慮它。你們確實在行動中，那些每天在你身上發生的行動。你成為了其中的一部分。我認為這是我今天帶給大家的最主要的信息。
A: And just so I can share what came through to me right before I got on the call with you Cobra, this is what they told me:
A：正式如此，我可以分享就在我接到眼鏡蛇電話之前所想到的，這是他們告訴我的：
Although you’ve been accustomed to the Dark running the programs on the planet, it is good to use discernment, however all we prompt you to think about is the suspicion. What is it accomplishing? Is it supporting the positive movement forward for the light to be victorious? Just listen with neutrality mindedness.
盡管你已經習慣於黑暗勢力黑暗勢力在這個星球行運行的程序，使用覺察力是非常有好處的，盡管我們所促使們考慮的所有的事情就是“懷疑”。什麼正在被完成？它是支持前方正面的運動使得光取得勝利嗎？僅僅以中立的思維去聽。
C: Suspicion is an emotional reaction. It is not actual discernment of the mind. When mind gathers information, when mind processes information, it has to go beyond the emotional reaction of suspicion or attraction towards certain information. You just get presented with the facts and in the clarity of those facts you simply begin to know the truth. And you have no need for doubt or suspicion because there are just reactions. You simply see the reality as it is.
C：懷疑是一個情緒的反應。它實際上不是思維的洞察力。當思維手機信息的時候，當思維處理信息的時候，它已經超越了懷疑或者被某個信息所吸引時造成的情緒反應。你僅僅是被贈與事實，在弄清楚那些事實的時候你就開始了解真相了。並且你沒有必要懷疑，因為他們僅僅是反應。你僅僅像它本來那樣看待事實就好。
A: Exactly, exactly
A：確實，確實
C: I can’t thank you enough for being a beacon of positivity and Light. I look forward to future interviews with you. I really hope that this cleared up questions that my fellow spiritual Lightworker friends have discussed many a time. I hope you all enjoyed this interview today. Everyone have a wonderful prosperous happy and peaceful day.
C：我對你成為一個積極的光之燈塔感激不盡。我期待著未來你的採訪。我真的希望這次訪談能夠解答我們同道的精神的光之工作者朋友們討論許多次的問題。我希望你們都能參加今天的訪談。祝願每一個人都有一個幸福和平靜的一天。
C: Thank you very much
C：非常感謝
A: Thank you
A：謝謝你.
SOURCE:
http://kauilapele.wordpress.com/2012/07/05/cobra-interview-7-3-12-by-alexandra-meadors/#more-12871
轉自:
http://greatascension.blogspot.hk/2012/07/blog-post_8451.html
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